Upon reviewing the tape of the game. Jets' were dominanted & manhandled. Only the Jets' defense made this game respectable. Jets' were unable to muster much offense & no running game at all. By the way, where was Cedrc Houston in that game ? He had only 1 carry ???? Very strange. Power running is what won that 1st game won against the Pats & Jets' went with a short passing game & quick Leon Washington in the playoff lose ??? Didn't work !!! For the 3rd or 4th season in a row, Jets' #1 problem or team need is Offense. I'm not gonna outright go & blame Chad, But he has limitations & the question is....Is Chads' limitations holding back the Jets' offense ? There's a reason Mangini didn't annoint Chad as next seasons starter, he might see those limitations ? Jets' lack of offensive scoring & inability to score within the redzone, was a big part of Jets' offensive problems. So, how do Jets' fix the problem ? My solution is for Jets' to create a dominant running game. And how do they do that ? We all know they need a premeir breakaway back; a RB that can take it to the house from anywhere on the field. But also, Jets' have to develop a dominant OL or at least a dominant side for Jets' to run to on 3rd & short yardage. This is the #1 priority to me. Jets' also need a better blocking TE, this will help OL also. Anthony Becht couldn't catch very good, but he was a strong blocker at the point of attack. Jets' also need a speed threat at WR. Better blocking FB would help also. DL & LB's also needs upgrades, but weakest unit on Jets' is the Offense, make no mistake about it !!!!!:wink: Jets' have to many needs to fix them in 1 off-season (But miracles do happen), but Jets' can & will provide Jets' fans with alot of good moments until Jets' are ready for there SB run. Question : What are your solutions to fixing Jets' offense or do you feel Jets' offense is not the problem ?
Good post. The Jets essentially lost the game against New England on the line as both the offensive line and the defensive front seven got outplayed. As often happens versus a superior defense the Jets offense was largely silent, although it got a fair number of yards by working the flats and short slants it failed to put any meaningful points on the board until it self-destructed late.
Nice point....Now my question to you is.......How do Jets' fix there offensive silence when they face superior defenses ?
It really comes down to better balance. We could not run the ball against the Pats except for the drive that we had the backward lateral when Washington had two big runs. That's the real reason why we couldn't get anything going offensively. The best way to do that is upgrade the OL (although I don't think its too far off) and get a better "every down" RB. Leon is going be a great playmaker for us, but I think every one knows he isn't the answer play in and play out throughout the entire game. EDIT - I need to explain further. We could not run the ball against the Pats so they were able to play against the pass better in particular the short and intermediate passes from Pennington. If we were able to run the ball better, we would have been able to keep them off balance, something we were able to do all year vs. the lesser teams.
Washington IS a guy that can take it to the house on any play. The problem is the O line. Moore is a slightly below average RG. Clement was average at best as well. Ferguson is a actually a poor run blocker. Mangold can hold his own, but not against Wilfork. He needs help. The fact that Chad isn't a deep threat QB allows the opposing D to play up. These tow things combined makes it very hard to establish a running game. We need to improve the right side of the O line in terms of run blocking. A lead blocker would be helpful as well, a FB that can pancake defenders. I'd like to say we need a dangerous deep threat at WR, but with Pennington, it doesn't matter much. Our RB's ALWAYS get hit at the line of scrimmage. That's on the O line, period. Games are always won and lost in the trenches. Our O line is still very sub par as a run blocking unit, and the front seven on D, especially the front 3 is very weak against the run. None of our front 3 does a good job at two gap containment. It;s the lineman, it's almost always the linemen.
I love Chad, but it's pretty clear that he is limited. After the first game @ Tennessee I thought he was stronger than before, but we never got to see downfield passing like that at any point later in the season for some reason. I'm in agreement with an open competition at QB in camp again. One good thing about Chad is we know what we will get, he manages the games very well giving us a chance to win every time. Personally, our QB situation is a pretty good one if you think about it. A solid vet like Pennington competing vs a young guy with potential in Clemens... not many teams have that. Deep down inside I'm hoping Clemens is the real deal though, we need a strong armed downfield passer to truly open up the offense.
Do you think with a full offseason of recovery rather than rehab will enable Pennington to have the arm strength he had on opening day at the end of the season as well?
What tape were you watching. The broadcast or the coaches tape. The broadcast will show nothing about downfield coverage, so, you really have no basis for saying Chad is the problem. His only bad pass was outstanding recognition of the "TOG" route combination by Asante Samuel which resulted in a touchdown.
I was watching the tv braodcast game. I don't believe it looked any prettier either way. Jets' were getting blown back. Anyway....nobody is pinning the blame on Chad.....so relax yourself & read before you start yapping ...:wink:
They do what they did in the Vinny days and go for the throat on every series. Yeah you get some turnovers and aren't guaranteed to win any more games but you sure do beat the good teams often enough when you're actually trying to score on every drive. The dink and dunk just does not work except against teams you should beat anyway.
Not every one by a long shot. Many think that Leon can be an "every down" back, and they may well include Mangini himnself. Saying that we "know" he can't after one rookie season in which he continuously earned a bigger and bgger role as the feature back is beyond silly. And, no he is not small. In fact, he is bigger than Curtis Martin.
He is definitely bigger than Martin was when he came into the league. That doesn't mean all that much though because Martin was a very special player in terms of toughness, durability and the ability to play through injuries that would have disabled lesser players. I'm perfectly willing to wait and see if Washington has what it takes to be a 250 carry back. He earned that this year with a string of very gutty performances.
Curtis Martin (5-11 210lbs) > Leon Washington (5-8 202lbs) thicker frame....maybe...bigger overall...not so much
a nice post--the jets need to use either their first or one of their second round picks for a feature RB. Washington can be a good change of pace back but they need a guy who can do more. Cut Blaylock and Barlow, keep Houston as a third RB, and get a RT--We lost a lot when Runyan finally picked the Eagles over the jets. I'd also consider the CARDS Leonard Davis for RG (not tackle) he excelled at guard until Denny Green moved him to LT (not a smart move--Davis could our best road grader since Dwayne White.
Lack of a running game? The only problem with the running game was the jets lack to use it. On 11 carries, leon rushed for 50 yds, which is 4.5 ypc, and this is no running game? Please, he was doing fine, then chad threw that backward pass/fumble, which made the jets abandon the run and pass for the rest of the game. The jets were not dominated, they were driving and within one score right up until that fumble. Don't throw that backward pass/fumble, and the jets probably score on that drive as they were moving the ball very well. The problem was lack of scoring TDs when needed in the redzone.
Well said. How many different ways can people say that the Jets need a new RB? We've heard you all. I would prefer the Jets beef up their O-line and stick with Leon/Houston than get a new guy but you're entitled to your opinion. Just stop thinking of new ways to say it.
I Agree. To me, the 3 biggest plays the Jets didn't make were the backwards pass, the whiff by Vilma, and the 3rd and 8 12 yard completion to Troy Brown over the middle deep in Pats territory. Jets make any one of those plays and they would have been right there at the 2 minute warning. Then Samuel can't gamble so much in a 1 score game and maybe just knocks away a pass like the one he picked. Jets played well, I thought. The Pats fans around me were certainly nervous
I just read the first post, so this in response to him. I agree, we were outplayed. We had one big play which kept us in the game.
I was calling for Cedric all game, he runs hard and tough. Thats what we needed against a NE defense. We needed to pound it out, Leon can not do that.
