They definitely should be getting an IOL prospect who can play center. I'd be happy to see one in the 2nd round if the value is there, but I be there could be some good prospects in the 4th too
I was thinking in the 2nd round... As other's have pointed out there are only one or two WR's with a 1st round grade and even that is debatable, in my mind anyway. If you watch "tape" on Fields he reminds me an awful lot like Mike Evans so, if you like Evans I'm thinking you'll like Fields.
My thinking on Center is as follows: if you can get a guy that you know you can start for the next 2 decades then you draft him WHEREVER you need to. This horse crap about not "burning" a 1st round pick on a guy who is going secure one of 22 spots for the next 15 to 20 years is just that, horse crap. I don't care if it's a sexy pick or not. Don't care if the draftnik's will give you an A or a C. No one is going to care, 5 years from now, what round you got a guy if he occupies a spot for 10+ years. Now, if you feel you can get a 20 yr. starter in the 2nd round on down, well then, O.K. But if there are only one or two guys who are worth drafting, you go get them. Center is one of those slots where I don't want to have to do too much "training" to get them up to speed. I want plug and play as much as you can get. I guess that's the difference between my thought process and others. For me it's about putting a kid in a slot where you now no longer have to worry about that slot for years. Does NOT matter WHERE you grab them. OL is one of those where a solid talent evaluator SHOULD be able to identify if a guy is going to be a long term starter in the league. It's not like drafting other spots where other influences impact their ability to produce. One final note I've finally reconciled. At #2, Reese better not be the pick. NO ONE gets drafted in the top 5, in my mind, who has started all of 16 freakin' games in college. I don't give a shit he he can jump out of the stadium. It's not enough of a resume for me to burn that pick. I need to see a lot more "tape" on a guy than 16 games. You can't make even a remotely definitive decision on such a tiny sample size.
I also get that vibe on Fields. Just really like those soft hands and how he bullies DBs. For a guy that big and strong I don’t think the 4.6 is a bad time at all. He also has nice shake coming out of his breaks. I’d take him at 33 and definitely wouldn’t pass on him at 44
That’s ok though. You’re generally playing Wilson and a smaller-ish slot type guy on the same side of the field anyways. We definitely don’t have a true X but we don’t really have a slot either. I think they’re ok with playing Mitchell as the X and just taking the top off the defense even if he can’t really catch.
I get that, what I’m saying is that doesn’t really matter these days. It wouldn’t deter me from taking Lemon in the slightest.
Mitchell is very intriguing to me still. He was constantly open on a variety of routes… inside, outside, down the field. He had some bad drops but he also had almost no time to build chemistry with two different god awful QBs in Fields and Cook. Some of those balls he dropped in the first game could have easily been a velocity thing that he never got a chance to get used to. Or… he just blew it. I like him as an X for us but I do wish we’d at least try to find a better option.
I completely agree, and it doesn’t have to be that long, if it can anchor the position 5-10 years as a capable starter you grab him regardless, particular if is a position of need. The notion some people have that you don’t draft certain positions that high in the draft, be it G or S or C or RB LB or whatever is so much old folklore. You get best possible players at every position.
Roseman did it to get Jalen Carter. I think we would sign up for that, even if we are not as good. It just depends. We have 9 picks - are we going to have 9 rookies this year + rookie UDFAs make a roster? Probably not. And if we move up say to 10, we don't lose #44, we end up maybe with 72 and still plug a hole at back-up OL. Aside from QB, which I do not think we can address in the draft, our biggest need is a WR right now. So, I don't think moving up in round 1 to address WR2, while moving down from round 2 and still get an OL in the 3d is a waste of capital. It all comes down the player. If Mooge thinks he can get his #2 WR at #10 and thinks there is a significant drop off at 16, it's not a bad idea to try to move up. Now, Lemon may not be the guy, I get that point, though I do like him. But whoever it is - if he thinks a high probability WR2 is there at #10 and won't be at #16 and the Bengals are willing to do the trade I mentioned earlier, it would be wise to pull the trigger.
You missed his point. The Eagles weren’t rebuilding. They were fresh off a SB appearance they barely lost. The Jalen Carter trade up is in no way comparable to the Jets trading up 5-6 spots for a receiver.
