Three of his four years in Chicago they finished bottom 10 in points and yards. Trubisky never got better, Fields never got better. If I remember correctly Nagy even had to give up playcalling duties towards the end because the offense was going nowhere. Obviously some of that is the fact he was working with two very bad quarterbacks but still. Tack on the Chiefs offense getting worse year by year and it’s all just not a great look. Not that Reich is a world-beater but I’d prefer the guy who won a Super Bowl calling plays for Nick Foles as opposed to the guy who was coaching Mahomes during the last three years of the Chiefs steady decline.
That's the thing, he was OC in Philly but never called the plays. He's probably the best we can do though, Nagy would have turned us down.
I actually spent a day in discord this week debating whether Nagy was a good hire for Harbaugh , and who i also don't believe is the slam dunk to work out in NY that people are assuming he's going to be. The Andy Reid and Matt Nagy offenses the last 3 years and with Patrick Mahomes at QB finished at a declining rate of 20th, 17th, 9th in total offense. Not really screaming "come to the Jets and be the ONE that finally saves us" stuff imo.
Every offseason since I've joined this board i've been starting from a place of absolutely despising our OC situations, and with a fundamental belief that until we get **THAT** hire right nothing else would ever have a realistic chance fall into place. Heck, that is probably the driving core behind a good 75% of the posts I've made here. That drove why I was so vehemently against bringing in Rodgers as an essentially OC'less "savior", and why I was vehemently against bringing in what I saw as a replicate clone to replace Hackett. Taking into account the surrounding reality that beggars can't be choosers (as far as who would actually be willing to take the job here)...hell yeah I approve. This is the first hire Woody has made in years that i actually approve of, and in this moment I don't even care about the shitshow details to what it took to get us there. I just care we are here and that we are finally making this type of hire. Frank Reich might not be a world beater coach, but this is essentially the first real step forward attempt the Jets have made to fix a laughing stock offense since 2022 imo. Even if it doesn't work it's at least trying to push towards real change. I'll take that right now.
Good point. Nagy is 15, 15, 21 in scoring offense with Mahomes after being pretty bad in Chicago. We were debating before whether Joe Brady's top 4 offenses should be largely discounted because of Josh Allen, Nagy could not get better than 15th with Mahomes! I think we got a better one with Reich, but let's see what happens with the Giants as well next year.
Sorry…I don’t have X or twitter…what is this? Is this about MLF hiring Nathaniel Hackett as OC in Arizona? Just saw that and man oh man, THAT is going to work out great! Wow…what a cluster
Is that “Nagy’s” offense or is he just along for the ride in the game planning room? Andy Reid has always called the plays. The contrary position is that Eric Bienemy has done virtually nothing worthwhile away from Kansas City. Did Nagy replacing him become the reason the offense dropped off or is the OC in Kansas City a relatively irrelevant position?
Well, they did just just hire EB back as Nagy's replacement. So you could arguably read Nagy not being viewed as having upgraded the previous situation within that.
That is... bizarre. I know Hackett worked for his brother but still. I guess maybe they're going to replace Murray with old ass Rodgers?
