I’m not advocating for either but you’re ignoring the fact that there’s very little financial risk with either Murray or Cousins beyond 2026. Most of their guaranteed money has been paid already by their incumbent franchise and there’s not much owed after 2026 if the Jets make a move for one and want to move on.
Go back and look at what Mills actually did this year dude. He was horrible against Buffalo and Denver. He played well against the hapless Titans although the offensive barely scored and to his credit had a good game against the Jaguars. He’s not worth anything more than a 5th round draft pick if that and he’s wildly overrated here.
Well I’ll defer to you on this one…I haven’t watched him specifically this year…I do remember games in the past that I’ve happened to watch and he seemed to do well, but if that’s not the case this year, I’m not gonna argue that point. Ah well…the options get slimmer and slimmer I guess…
It's not *that* much but it's also not nothing either imo. I guess maybe you could make that argument on Kyler. Cousins is going to be 38yo though, and the jets are currently (still) sitting at square 1 of a rebuild. I can't see making that commitment coming out of eyes that are going to be mostly focused in on the 2027 and beyond picture.
The more I think about it the more I feel I’d make Glenn stick with Fields. It was his hand picked choice at Quarterback. Let him live with that decision and that gives us the best chance at 1st overall. For the next coach/GM the job with the jets has to look attractive. There is no better way to stroke a high profile coach ego than to give him the keys to 1st overall and 4 picks in the top 33 next year. Kinda the way the Jags lured Mayer (even though he was a disaster) to take that job. No high profile coach is coming here unless he feels he can turn it around. The only way to do this is to dangle those picks and we need 1st overall.
Agree with this 100%. Also, in our quest for a 2026 QB solution, what would we be trying to win? 3rd place in the AFC East? I’m violently opposed to purposely tanking for draft position because it perverts the whole point of sports. BUT, if we don’t have a viable shot at the playoffs, I don’t see the point of giving up value to move from shitty to slightly less shitty. However, I wouldn’t include something like your Milroe idea in that.. 2027 should be a year where developing young talent takes priority over stacking up wins. Which is my biggest concern with AG - that wins are objectively easier to track than rookie development and his short-term goal is showing wins for job security. The embarrassment has been done. I’m angry but now looking ahead. Not that winning isn’t UNimportant. But if this time next year we can look back at the 2027 season and say - yeah, we sucked, but some of the rookies can clearly play, we have a professional HC coming in, and we’re in right in the sweet spot for a top-tier qb in what should be a deep qb draft, I’ll be content. Not happy. Just content.
Look at the Pats for example, they had a terrible coach last year but had a chance to get their core rookies some live bullets and experience. They had a great draft with their new coach and he took them to a fucking Super Bowl. In football bad teams can change quickly with excellent coaching, excellent quarterback and a team that has juice that believes in themselves.
Semi-related, big picture My ideal vision for rebuilding the Jets is working small to big. Build a team specifically tailored to go toe-to-toe with the Bills and Patriots. Sounds obvious, I know. Duh It’s not, though. That’s not the typical HC or front office approach. But, it’s how Jim Harbaugh won a national title at Michigan. He coached nine years at Michigan and we forget that for half that time he was nowhere near the Golden Boy he was by Year Nine. He actually had to take a pay cut around Year Five to keep his job. It wasn’t until he put everything into one game - beating Ohio State - that things turned around. Everywhere around the locker room and campus, all year long, were reminders about the importance of that one game. There’s a thread somewhere on this board about that - before Michigan turned into a contender. Turns out, focusing on that one game made everything else fall into place. Small to big. Oddly enough, I think both Ryan and Mangini tried to do something like this. We get shat on for the embarrassing gap between Jets playoff appearances. I won’t repost the graphic that really rubs it in. As much as it galls me to give Jets management any excuse at all, there’s a reason for that playoff drought that’s unique to the Jets. And, I guess, the Dolphins. The playoff window is slim for teams that don’t win their division; and the Jets had Brady and Allen back-to-back - two league MVPs and HOF QBs - making that window even slimmer. No other division has been locked up like that. It’s a reason, not an excuse. Josh Allen still has a lot of tread on his tires, but he plays a tougher game than Brady did. Drake Maye looks like the real deal, but I don’t think he’s a World Beater. Where I hope Jets’ go in player acquisition and development is building a team that can do battle annually with those two teams. Building a championship starts there.
I like the way you think. Certainly SOLVES the starting QB situation! Draft a guy in the 2nd or 4th...
Allen is a smart guy he'll adapt his style of play more he started doing that a bit this season and he has plenty of arm to last as a pure passer. I think. I agree about Coach McDermott. It would be comparable to when Parcells came here from New England. He should be here now but Woody has no idea even after 25+ years as a NFL owner.
The Bengals played in a Super Bowl a few seasons ago & Detroit was the #1 seed in their conference in 2024. Our time will come sooner rather than later it's been long enough.
Now if the Browns ever appear in a Super Bowl before us, I'm right there with you bro. Love the optimism.
Cousins very little risk. I would actually like that move as a potential option for us. But Kyler is owed 42.5 this year and 36.5 next year. That is a decent chunk of change for him. I would not try to go after him.
The dead cap to cut Murray after 2026 is only $7.2 million though which is pretty manageable. I imagine whichever team takes Murray may force the Cardinals to pay some of his contract.
He has one of these contracts where 2027 is not guaranteed yet, so it looks better now, but 2027 (next year) will get guaranteed in about a month once the new 2026 (this year) League year starts next month. If we are to trade for him, it will be 42.5 this year and 36.5 next year. I don't think Arizona is eating this and we will need assets as well. Even though I do not like it in our situation, this salary is not unfair for his caliber player. Now that MILF is there, I wonder if he would want to keep him. He knows that Murray has some baseline level of QB play and what could happen to him when he has shit QB.
I gotta disagree Jack but I am glad you shared your opinion I think where the Jets have gone wrong has been constantly trying to build a team to beat the Patriots. Thats why we drafted defensive linemen for a decade to chase Brady because they saw the Giants beat them that way. At this point, I think the Jets suck so bad the division rivals should not even be on our radar. I think they should focus on building a good, balanced football team for once. That's been overlooked here and it sounds stupid, but it has. For example, you have a "good" running back in Breece Hall, great, keep him and move on to positions that aren't good. -- They've had this weird comparison thing where players can't just be good they have to compared to all-time greats or players that took down the Patriots. Darnold was a victim of that. He was just barely "good/fine" here but the Patriots dressed him down, they couldn't settle for good and needed to chase the rainbow with Zach Wilson. Sauce Gardner was a victim of it, he couldn't just be a good CB, he needed to be compared to Darrelle Revis. So many guys just cast aside like that. then you watch the playoffs and there are a variety of styles, teams that run the ball, teams that dont run the ball, good defenses, average defenses, on and on. It tells you there are so many different ways to win. You dont need to build one that beats the Patriots or Bills
Call Phillip Rivers. He can be the starting QB, the OC, and the QB coach. Three major positions filled with one person.
I'd be looking hard at Tua. Real hard. Miami is in a rebuild and his contract is a tricky one. They may have to release him. They have this trigger, where they can void his contract in 2030 and make 2026 fully guaranteed. That seems like a lock no matter what they do, I dont see them engaging yet another year onto that mess. It would be an astronomical number in 2026 but then they could go the route of Aaron Rodgers/Russell Wilson, post June 1st cut designation, and eat the dead cap money. Then Tua is a free agent, already making over $50 mill, he could sign somewhere for cheap, like our Jets. And we get a decent QB who's being paid mostly by the Dolphins.
