Nothing Woody does makes sense I guess maybe what we can take away from all this chatter is that the team seems to be in some kind of internal chaos…they are firing coaches left and right, they are reaching out to wild options (Gruden???? Really?)…just seems like I can imagine Woody somewhere in the background just throwing out stupid ideas and yelling to some assistant “Call Gruden!”…just clueless as to what to do. But the more of this kind of chatter we keep hearing, and the more it sure feels like no reputable coach is going to come near this mess, I think the better chance that at some point, Woody just blows a gasket and fires AG and really wipes the slate clean. At this point, I can’t imagine who would take this job at this time…feels like something like when Houston hired David Curry (do I have that name right?), the WR coach who was an HC candidate for NO ONE… I don’t know… many Jets fans hate the Giants because they seemingly look down on us … but man…THIS! THIS is why they do! We are such a hot fucking mess…it’s embarrassing….
Maybe he could get Bill Parcells to come out of retirement. I joked about this the other day, but I think it might actually be what they need to do. Glenn needs to bring in Mike Westhoff to lead the search for both coordinators. Westhoff knows his stuff and would at least be able to find some reasonably competent people to come in and hold down the fort for a season.
I don’t know how they’d finagle it while navigating the Rooney rule properly but this is so ugly that it’s almost starting to seem like the Jets are negotiating behind the scenes with someone with the intention to fire Glenn randomly.
If it makes sense to you, fine. What I observed is someone pretty much defending Glenn all season and until the very end to the point people asked him to vote in the poll to get on record for the future, and he voted the opposite, then continued to defend him. This is not just someone being tired of Glenn blame. Honing debate skills maybe, but doesn't really matter. Take yourself for example, I saw some posts making a case to fire Glenn, even if you are tried of constant blame too. That's your opinion, and that's a normal reaction. Now, if it makes sense to you, fine by me. Besides, I was referring to the other part about Brady.
It'll be Jon Gruden and Rex Ryan as the first ever co-Head Coaches. It would be terrible to watch on the field, but at least it would be all-time entertaining.
Browns hired Todd Monken. Pretty good hire for them, even though seemingly no one wanted to come there. I wanted to interview him last year as well. Hell, he could have chosen the Jets if we had an opening over the Browns. That just goes to show, you have to keep on trying to improve, there are only 32 of these jobs. Even in the shittiest situation you could actually get an upgrade even if a few candidates say no, Wish Woody were not a complete imbecile.
Is there a single hire you haven’t liked this offseason though? I don’t think Monken is much of a good hire. A ton of people turned down even interviewing with the Browns because of the ridiculous shit they asked candidates to do. He’s also the guy that didn’t give Derrick Henry the ball while the Ravens kept surrendering huge leads at the end of games over the past couple years.
I don't know...I'd take Monken over Glenn without a second hesitation. however, I'm interested and I haven't heard...what is all this stuff that the Browns were asking candidates to do? Honest question!
Yes, there were - Bob for example. But I like offensive guys who had success. Monken, Brady, McCarthy, these are the guys I wanted to even interview last year, this is not something new. Even this year I suggested to can Glenn and interview them. Kubiak would have been the preference though this cycle. He is a victim of his own success in a way as he is not available still for two more weeks because he made SB and teams want to move quicker to get HC and positional coaches filled out.
Monken’s changed jobs every 2-3 years and more frequently than that in certain spots for the past 25 years. There’s something up with that. https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/browns-head-coach-interviews-unlike-222607652.html According to Tom Pelissero, the Browns search process is just “unlike any other in the NFL” and includes things like essays, personality profiles, tests, and more.
Browns I think are in a worse spot than us for a HC. No QB, but also no picks that we have and Watson's contract is way worse than anything we have. Ridiculous interview requirements. Still found someone I would take over Glenn any time. They will probably retain their DC now too, who is pretty good.
I would have interviewed ALL offensive side coaches...including the ones you mentioned, and adding guys like Kingsbury. McCarthy was high on my list...after we passed him over for Saleh, he went and took the Cowboys to the playoffs...that is the guy we needed...someone who knows how to run a team. I wanted to go talk to him instead of Glenn. Woody never did. I didn't have anything personal against Glenn really ... my objections, and I HATED the hire as soon as it was announced, was that I did not want a defensive coach and in any case, his defenses were not great in Detroit and were not the engine behind that team's success...of course Woody was too stupid to see any of that. But our offenses have been SO shitty for SO long, that I just can't comprehend that Woody can't figure this basic shit out.
Basically, we are now seeing Glenn's new plan. And that is take care of the defense himself and hire experienced OC, who will be the HC of the offense. He didn't think Tanner was it, so Reich will likely come in as OC/assistant HC, and Tanner gone since he didn't want to stay under these conditions. This is a big departure from the original plan to be a CEO, have a promising young play caller on offense and a HC of the defense in Wilks. This new plan actually is pretty typical for a HC with background on one side of the ball and is the one employed by a lot of successful teams. Seattle, 49ers, Rams, and others do it. Could be enough to win 5-6 games and take us out of a QB in the next draft and Glenn might even convince Woody to keep him for another year... Good times.
What's really crazy is that Glenn was basically the exact type of hire Saleh was. Decent DC from a good franchise that won primarily because of its innovative offensive coaches. I'm starting to wonder if Woody has a legitimate learning disability or something.
I think it was similar except that I think Saleh was a MUCH better defensive coordinator than Glenn ever was. Saleh had top 5 defenses in SF, and he immediately fielded a top defense here…in his case past success was indeed a good predictor of future success. Problem was he got saddled with Zach and as a defensive coach, he didn’t have the background to assess and develop him. Then the typical Jets pivot to Rodgers and that was all she wrote.
Agree 100% on the strategic pivot. It is for sure a total about face Good call out To quote Jason Bateman…”It’s a bold strategy, Cotton…hope it works out for them”
My only hope for, which must have been Woody reaching out to John Gruden, is because once he fires Glenn this season, he will be the next head coach, purely speculation but I think Woody wanted him on the staff, so he could potentially fire him when things go south, put Gruden in control, Glenn is atrocious
