Here’s my opinion on Simpson. He’s a very intelligent Quarterback so he will be able to get the playbook and have the ability to play fast. However, the lack of live bullets will be difficult to overcome. So, the only way we take him is if you have a solid veteran in front of him. Let him play all the pre season games to help with the speed of the game. The strength and conditioning coach needs to work him hard too. Not to loose the elasticity in his arm but to gain the confidence of making more decisive decisions in the pocket. He doesn’t have a canon but his arm is good enough. His accuracy is good but needs work as well. In high school when I have a rookie qb in practice we are Live for his reps. No red shirt BS for rooks, just live bullets and I want my DC bringing the house and mixing in cover 3. The Starter gets to red shirt but rookies are always live. Now, this is the nfl and it’s much different than high school but football is football and I feel if we take Simpson he needs to develop in practice and in pre season before we throw him in the fire like all the other QBs we ruined.
I will drive to the New York Jets facility and personally put my foot in Mougey's asshole if they do something as colossally stupid as throwing the farm at a "good" QB..
LOL….don’t worry the Raiders wouldn’t go for that anyway. That offer wouldn’t be nearly enough. I see Mendoza as a good pro QB but not one of those perennial pro bowlers… Throw a dart - draft a QB 3rd/4th round and hold the fort for the ‘27 draft. Build the rest of the team in the meantime…
Yeah…this seems to be the only option at this point…no QB other than Mendoza is worth the #2 pick, and while there are always surprises in the draft, and it’s not always the first QB drafted who becomes the best of his class, I just have such little confidence in this coaching staff to groom a QB. You have to draft towards the draft’s strength instead of your own needs I think, so as much as we need a QB, none are worth the 2nd pick. We have to build the team…personally I’d probably say Bain if we stay at #2, but I could also live with a trade down if it’s a good deal. We have to find a free agent or trade for a vet QB, it is what it is. I want no part of Murray even if he’s cut, I want nothing to do with Cousins in a trade. I’d be fine trading for Davis Mills, I’d be fine trying to sign Willis though I’m not sure he’d do well here with our coaching staff…and he’ll be expensive probably. There’s always the odd unexpected trade out there you sometimes see, so you never know, but feels like the best we can hope for is a hold the fort young vet with some upside (Willis, Davis) or else we’re looking at full on backups/scrubs like Trubisky or Mariotta, none of whom excite anyone. I get taking a flier on a mid round QB draft, but the odds of those guys making it for the NFL as a whole are pretty low, and for us as a team are actually ZERO. We’ve never done it. Ever. And AG is FAR from the best coaches we’ve ever had. So sure, we can draft a mid round guy but chances are he won’t even be a good backup for us…we’ve done this so many times with guys like Nagle, Morgan, Bryce Petty, Clemens, etc…we’ve never been able to take a mid round guy and groom him even into a decent backup…so a bit like throwing a pick in the trash, though I get the hope of maybe THIS time, THIS OC can develop a guy. I doubt it, but I guess you gotta try.
While you may be right regarding drafting a QB late the truth is they have to do something. The QB room right now is terrible - they need a starter, a dependable back-up, and a young guy to groom. Brady Cook isn’t the answer. They will trade for a vet who probably begins the season as the starter. My opinion would be that drafting a guy in the third/fourth round like Carson Beck as an example wouldn’t be a bad idea. His ceiling in the NFL may turn out to not even be a starter but the Jets have to keep trying until they find one. I can see them turning the reins over to Beck or whoever midway through the season as a tryout - kind of like what they did with Cook. At worst he doesn’t impress and they are going to draft a QB high in 2027 anyway. Or maybe they’re comfortable with him as a back-up. Or maybe they find a diamond in the rough who knows. But for this year as far as the top picks they need day one starters all over the roster particularly on defense.
We all already know with 99.9% certainty that Tanner Engstrand isn't going to be developing a QB here. Some are just still in technical denial of that surrounding reality atm. If we draft a mid round QB that development responsibility is going to fall on the next OC hire a year from now. Which of course arguably defeats the whole non-wishcasting purpose of taking a mid round QB before then. Carson Beck isn't coming in here year 1 to do anything but suck. Which realistically just end up with the same people pining for that pick this year pining for another more fresh hope replacement QB pick a year from now. Most of this board wants to take Bain/Reese with our #2 overall. If we are serious about taking a QB this year with one of our first 4 picks, and I believe we probably are, I'm at the point where I'd honestly rather see every one of those 3 other picks go towards building a better offensive environment for that kid. I'd want Love, a new WR1 to hopefully push GW to only need to be a 2 (no shot that ever happens outside the 1st round for us), and maybe a G. Give them more of a fighting chance that is also going to have to involve an OC swap after year 1.
But he's 24 years old and no, they don't give waivers out like candy. In fact, the NCAA denied his waiver bc it was so ridiculous a claim. The situation is now that his lawyer, who is literally the head of the Ole Miss NIL collective, is A) giving him bad advice and B) is suing in court in Mississippi to overrule the NCAA. Chambliss has zero, and I mean zero, reason to be granted another year there other than "Ole Miss finally got good and want to try to win and can't without him". It's a shameful bastardization of the entire thing, AND it screws the NFL.
How do you explain the average starting age of both teams in the national championship being 24 if they weren’t handing out waivers like candy? Pavia just played his 6th year and got his waiver approved to forget one year at New Mexico Military Institute. Beck just played his 6th year. A monster amount of players just played their 6th year as evident by the national championship. Why not Trinidad?
I like Ty Simpson, but my opinion isn't worth much. I also liked Zach Wilson. Ty seems like a better prospect than Zach.
Different type of receiver but I want Malachi Fields. The guy is an absolute beast. Perfect fit with Wilson. The kid just dominates 50/50 balls and back shoulder throws. Reminds me of AJ Brown without all the crazy… He’s going to be a stud
Only way Raiders trade the pick is if some team just loses their mind and throws a "stupid" offer their way in the form of multiple Day/1 picks over multiple years. Not gonna happen, IMO. I don't see Mendoza as that kind of player. Just a very good QB in a terrible QB draft.
It's pretty funny how bad all of these options are. We are not winning more than 4-5 games next year.
Agreed. Best case is that the Jets are "competitive" in most games and manage to squeak out 5 or so W's. This is NOT going to be a 2-year rebuild like the Bears or Pats. We also have 2 big dead contracts on the books next year, don't forget.
Honestly, our best shot is to lose again next year and take a QB in the draft and new coach. My BIGGEST concern is we win these 5 games, which will take us out of top 3, and we will again be left with shitty season and no good QB option to show for it. Either make play-offs/have winning season, or suck ass completely, so at least we can get a QB. in the draft. Like this year, as bad as we were, we still managed a special team win to take us out of a QB. We really need to find a way to get one next year. We have been so bad for so long, and still end up just above below the threshold - like #2 pick with 1 QB. Next year we will probably pick 4th in 3 QB draft with no one trading out.
That’s the problem Winning those 3 games this year totally FUCKED us in a 1 QB draft…those meaningless wins did absolutely no good…did not instill any culture or winning mentality, didn’t carry over, just fucked us out the top pick in a draft where there is really only 1 legit QB. And obviously lots can change as we haven’t even hit free agency yet, let alone the draft, but from where we sit today, it’s hard to see this team, with this coach, being remotely competitive next year…our schedule may be harder (again, who knows because it’s so early), but still, hard to see how we’ll be competitive…and I’m just so tired of going into seasons already having to accept that we won’t make the playoffs, that we will suck, and having to hope that we suck just bad enough to at least get a good draft pick. I hate it. It’s our reality, and has been for a while now, but I hate it. I’m too old to keep throwing away seasons before they even start.
#2 pick in a draft that is basically 1 QB deep....not ideal ! Why couldn't we have done this in 2024 ?? I like our chances of landing in top 3 next year. If not through sucking then surely we could package enough picks to move up. Also, hopefully a much deeper pool of true,1st round quality QB's.
