LOL. We just went 3-14 in historically bad fashion and the worst coach in the NFL was ... retained. Our QB coach is still Charles London. We just tanked in spectacular fashion to get a #2 pick in ... 1 QB draft and really no consensus #2 player with several guys fighting for the spot. We do have to thank the Lord of course for everything else, but I do not think in the context of the Jets.
In a league where everybody wants to know what everyone else is doing I just simply can't imagine there won't be (if not already) a few feelers, texts, and calls exchanged over this "general" issue.
The problem is that QB picked that low almost never work out. There are literally two QBs in the NFL that went 44 or below and are decent: Purdy and Hurts. It's still a premium pick, but here is a much higher probability to pick a really good player at another position, while chances of a QB working out at that spot are very little. More than likely you just waste a premium pick. If we don't think there is a clear high level 1st round guy might be better to punt on QBs this year in the draft rather than waste a pick. And worse yet, end up in Hackenberg/Mahomes situation. Even if not still a giant waste of a premium pick.
Completely agreed. This was not a tank. It was just extremely bad football, one of the worst seasons in NFL history. Calling it a tank essentially provides an excuse for what we saw on the field this year. A franchise deciding to run it back with a coaching staff and front office that presided over one of the worst seasons in NFL history is bad enough. But to double down on that even after some of the best coaches in the league become available makes it even worse. Even if they couldn't get Tomlin or Harbaugh (and I know that they wouldn't come within a 1,000 miles of this dumpster fire), having them in the mix makes the chances of getting candidates who otherwise would have been at the top of this coaching class much more attainable for the Jets. The Jets should be lining up a fleet of Brinks trucks on Mike McCarthy's street and doing whatever it takes to get him in here.
To clarify, I did not mean intentional tank. I mean we sucked like hell and finished in historically bad fashion to get #2 pick in 1 QB draft with no clear top non QB either. Only the Jets...
This part of it was the best thing to happen to the Jets. Now they're not going to be bringing a highly drafted rookie QB into a situation with a terrible coaching staff and a roster that is one of the worst in the league. It wouldn't have mattered who the QB they drafted was at #2, it wasn't going to work out because nobody could thrive in the situation that they would have been put into.
It is not in any way, “the best thing” that could happen to the Jets More talented players, not less, in the draft is better for the team with 4 picks in the top 44
Finally watching videos of Bain and Reese to get over the QB discussion and my goodness Bain is a monster
I think so too and personally feel like Bain has the swagger to be the primetime guy on the Jets. He has a alpha and fun personality, could easily see him being a fan and coach favorite. Reese is a unicorn talent and I am sure he will be incredible too. Feel like Mougey has a tough job on this one
Reese could be like Micah Parsons, rushing the passer from all over the place. The best linebacker in a great linebacker class. Did you see he benches over 400lbs? And yeah Bain has all the other stuff, leadership and culture change. I love them both and have a hard time choosing between the two
Reese in theory is what we really need, potential of Parsons talent and hes like a swiss army specimen out there. But I dont know when the last time we had a team leader that could walk in and everyone would follow their lead like this dude talks. Im pretty sure Bain will ace all the interviews https://youtube.com/shorts/NOXWAUJgsCk?si=B51hSMtu0ExpCjFm
https://www.essentiallysports.com/c...-experience-among-triggers-for-late-reversal/ Per Tony Pauline, "According to those I’ve spoken with who are part of his team, the feeling just two days ago was Moore would enter the draft, but the mood changed over the past 48 hours." "The lack of starts on the college field – Moore has a combined 20 starts at UCLA and Oregon – played a major factor in his decision. The quarterback made mention of this after the Oregon loss to Indiana in the college football playoffs." "I’m also told that concern about who would select Moore was a factor in his final decision. The quarterback was projected as the second or possibly first pick of the draft, choices held by the New York Jets and Las Vegas Raiders, respectively. And while there’s a chance one of those teams – primarily the New York Jets – could still end up drafting Moore in 2027, the quarterback had a choice in the matter this year." "The one-sided loss to Indiana also played a part in the decision" Basically, if true, it looked like he was declaring, but loss to Indiana, lack of starts, and yes, not wanting to be drafted by the Jets were the major factors that pushed him back. I wonder if voices of Smith, McShea and others actually made a difference? Or maybe he did not think Charles London was the best QB coach he could have had this year? I guess we will never know.
that reporter is full of shit. No player thinks that way. Oregon didn't go on the QB portal carousel, they hung tight knowing he was going to come back. This was weeks in motion. They got a commitment from Raiola, but he came to them. hes going to sit and learn and get healthy
I hope you are right, but I just don't know what to believe anymore. A lot of smoke regarding this. Pretty depressing if true, it really is. Hopefully he is full of shit, like you said. Here is my concern, and I actually think this is the most likely scenario. I do not see a path to getting a good QB this year, but we could get someone who will do better than what had this year. The coaching is awful as well. But the team might improve a little bit with 4 premium picks we have, pick up some mid QB like Mariotta, Trubisky, and they might blow the load with free agency. Then they end up wining about 5-6 games, and end with say pick 8-9. Moore, Arch, Saying, and Sellers all have more years of eligibility. We don't know who plays well, who will declare. But let's say there will be 2-3 top tier QBs. We will need top 2-3 pick next year to get them. I don't know if we will even be able to trade from 9 to 2. Probably not, especially if the team that is there needs a QB. The path to end up with a long term QB is very murky right now. And even to get a good HC, it does help to have a young promising QB or a path to getting one. If Dante declared, and we drafted him, sure this incompetent coaching staff would not be able to develop him, but he could have come in later in a year, start second half, and showed some flashes like Sam did and Dart did, and would make coaching situation more attractive for the next coach who maybe COULD have developed him. At least there was a realistic path to this team succeeding in 2027. Right now I cannot see that path. It feels like a 5-6 win season upcoming and more pain. Basically the 2025 tank failed by 1 game. For 2026 it's hard to find anything positive right now with this coaching staff and no QB, but higher likelihood of winning just a couple of more games where we are still shit, but with the tank just not good enough to get a top QB again. And this is after missing 15, soon to be 16 years of play-offs in a row. This may be the rock bottom in the last 30 years of fandom.
He's great but he isn't Micah Parsons. The irony.. We could've had the actual Micah Parsons. So if this is the pick, it bothers me a little. Why not get the guy, you want this kid to be, it was literally offered up for us to do? I don't know. Right now... I'm hoping Reese/Lemons for the first round.
