RE: Chambliss. I'm really interested to see what his official height is. I keep saying he's a hair short of 6 Ft.
State courts involved in Chambliss. Somehow I don’t see the Mississippi state court ruling he can’t play for Mississippi lol. I think we need to move forward assuming he’s staying in school
I had the same analysis of Josh Allen. I think what we also probably missed with Allen is that no one throws well in that building in Wyoming after the first couple weeks of the year because of the swirling wind. I still think he’s a massive anomaly. He’s not the first athletic big arm QB to come out of college with raw physical skills like he has. Paxton Lynch, EJ Manuel, Josh Freeman and Blake Bortles come to mind. Allen worked his ass off on his own to fix the hitch in his throwing motion that caused inaccuracies. His success has made the big, athletic, big armed QB without a ton of college success comparison dangerous for NFL teams.
Yes. The weather definitely was a factor. Good point. Also, if I remember correctly, Wyoming ran a true Pro-Style offense and Josh was consistently throwing the ball 15+ yards down the field. It was not, by any means, a gimmicky screen centered offense or RPO.
Ha. My brother had a hard-on for Allen. I just didn't see it, and just thought he was a big dude with an arm that would flop in the NFL. I wanted to trade-down and take Lamar in the 20s
Agreed about the pocket presence, but height does matter. Under 6 feet there just hasn't really been any great QBs in recent history. Russ is probably the only one, and I am not even sure I would call him great. Drew Breese (measured 6'1/2") is probably the only recent example of someone below 6-1 who was great. Statistically speaking these are astronomical odds. And I am not saying has has to be great, but it very clear that height is a MAJOR obstacle to overcame. It's just a fact. It's not impossible, you see a couple of guys (very few) here and there who are that short and OK, like Murray, Young, and these were #1 overall talents when drafted, but I think you get my point... Would have really helped if Chambliss was 6-2 But under 6 feet, it's a toll order to beat these odds.
Carson Beck - I must say I thought I had him pinned as a prospect with his time at Georgia as a poor man’s Matt Ryan. Was I ever to quick to make judgment on the young man as he has improved tremendously in Miami. Strengths - Good physical tools standing 6’4”, strong arm with a quick release. Accurate short and intermediate passes. Throws with anticipation. Pre snap reads are decisive. Has the ability to pick up first downs on broken plays. Pure pocket passer that can pick teams apart with quick anticipation throws from the pocket that slows down the pass rush. Weaknesses - Post snap happy feet. Deep ball accuracy issues. Injury concerns on his throwing shoulder from his time at Georgia. Needs to display better leadership on the field. Can’t rely on his first read anticipation throws all the time. Needs to use his ability to scan the field better. Footwork although improved could be better. Overall/pro comp/Grade - after his time at Georgia I felt he would never be more than a backup in the NFL at best. Watching the Miami tape he has definitely improved some of the issues he had a Georgia holding the ball to long and heavy feet. His arm throwing passes on a line is nice but his deep balls need more velocity at the NFL level or safety’s will have too much time to get there. I think Beck can be a starter in the NFL in a west coast system that utilizes his short pass accuracy and anticipation throws. My comp for him is Brock Purdy. I have a grade of a C+ for him Trinidad Chambliss - First off this kid wasn’t on my radar at all during the season as he played D2 ball and was a backup on Ol Miss to start the season. An injury happened and emerged was an athlete that nobody saw coming. Strengths - Dual threat quarterback that is incredibly fast and has good arm strength along with a quick release. Total gamer, wants the ball in his hands during key downs. Isn’t afraid of anything as he takes hits and keeps the motor running. Has a natural ability to play football. The game looks easy at times for him. Makes excellent decisions taking care of the football that let to very few turnovers. Plays bigger than his size. His deep ball accuracy is impressive along with off platform throws. He’s tough and has the hunger to be great. Weaknesses- His frame is small for the amount of hits he takes being dual threat. Doesn’t trust his progressions as he takes off running a lot of the time when his first read is covered. Needs better short and intermediate accuracy from the pocket. Needs to put some weight on his frame for durability. He plays hero ball when the going gets tough. The small sample size of games makes him hard to evaluate completely. Overall/pro comp/Grade - He is an interesting prospect because he makes wow plays with both his feet and arm. He made some throws down field that were big boy throws and made a bunch of amazing plays with his feet that were true game breaker plays. I want to love this kid I really do but my biggest reservation is he only played 10 regular season and 3 playoff games. The thing is he looked like a baller in those 13 games. He reminds me of RG3 with the speed, size and accurate deep ball. I’d like to give him a higher grade because loved his film but I’m going to take a reserved approach because of the sample size and say B-
Change the thread title to 27 lol, I don't want most of these guys and now we are tanking for Archie anyway. Go Reese at 2, a WR or LB at 16 and whichever you don't get grab at 33. QB at 44 if you must.
I heard he's really serious about getting back to school. Probably knows his NFL options are limited with that height. He has to get into the perfect situation or he'll struggle. I'd try and pull down as much of that NIL money as possible too, if I were him.
If he comes back, he is probably one of the better College QBs and would get "over $5 million annually for 2026, contingent on NCAA waiver approval, according to OutKick and ESPN". I doubt he goes 1st round in the NFL draft. The height is too much of a factor given almost non existent historic probability of success by sub 6 feet QBs. And even if he goes in the second, what is it 6-7 mil contract over 4 years? Much better to bag 5 mil for 1 year and then next year he can get his 6-7 mil contract. Or if he does incredibly well, he may be even get into the 1st and bag more. But as of now, it makes a lot of sense for him to come back. This is not Dante Moore situation, where he is getting 55 mil guaranteed and 35 of them as a signing bonus as #2 pick in the draft. For Chambliss it is financially much more viable to go back to school.
Just for comparison's sake when it comes to Chambliss, Simpson and these other top QBs who are believed to be getting 5-7 million in NIL. Here are the guarantees of last year's QB picks Jaxson Dart (Pick 25) 4 Years, $16,977,942 Fully Guaranteed: $16,977,942 Signing Bonus: $8,987,592 Year 1 Cash: $9,827,592 Tyler Shough (Pick 40) 4 Years, $10,804,728 Fully Guaranteed: $10,804,728 Signing Bonus $4,497,984 Year 1 Cash: $5,337,984 Jalen Milroe (Pick 92) 4 Years, $6,264,086 Fully Guaranteed: $1,195,700 Signing Bonus: $1,195,700 Year 1 Cash: $2,035,700 Shedeur Sanders (Pick 144) 4 Years, $4,467,380 Fully Guaranteed: $447,380 Signing Bonus: $447,380 Year 1 Cash: $1,287,380 As added context 1. The first pick of the second round (Carson Schwesinger) got $6,062,108 in Year 1 Cash 2. Shough was the last pick to have his contract fully guaranteed. 3. Tre Harris, the No. 55 pick, got $5,578,241 fully guaranteed 4. The third round is where the fully guaranteed falls off a cliff. Andrew Mukuba, the last pick of the 2nd round, got a 4 Year, $7,160,538 contract with $4,196,063 fully guaranteed. Darius Alexander, the first pick of the 3rd round, got a 4 Year, $6,762,070 contract with $1,557,868 fully guaranteed. If you're not 100% sure your a 1st or 2nd round pick, the right financial decision is clearly to stay in school. Based on Cash you'll get in 2026, it's not crazy to suggest, that you're better off at Ole Miss than being taken in the 33-40 range.
Great detail! Yeah, I've never seen Chambliss play but I rely on the input from folks like @Jonathan_Vilma and @Rockinz to clue me in. I read he's VERY good but the moment I found out he's under 6' his options at the NFL level shrunk considerably. Let's face it, you can count on 2 hands how many under 6' QB's excelled to the point where they were a franchises long term solution. Bank that cash in college as long as you can. Hell, a wise kid could take the amount of cash he earns in college and, literally, set himself up for life if he lived "normally."
