Tough pill to swallow that we have sucked as bad or worse than any Jets team in history but we did not suck quite enough.
Please trade out of 2, I don't care if we have to trade out of the 1st round completely with it but get out of 2 and stockpile picks in 27. Moore isn't it, there is no concensus pick at the top so the value will be low but fuck it do it anyway. Try and have 4 picks in the 1st in 27 that way when Glenn is fired, and he will be next season we can atleast have a semblance of hope after next year.
So pretty much my evaluation of Moore is spot on and it was clear tonight. I put a lot of time on the 4 QBs and I’m pretty confident in my evaluation. Moore needs to go back to college. He has some really good qualities that eventually could translate into a pro quarterback but it’s a hard pass for me at #2. If he comes out it’s because of a weak QB draft and he’ll get pushed up the board and therefore make more money. It would be a horrific pick putting this franchise years behind if we take him at 2 with this coaching staff.
He played against a team that gives up 10.3 ppg though. I mean, he did not look great, and that pick 6 was awful, but he rebounded and scored a TD right after. I am not sure this game can be used as an example why he should go back to school. I don't think many QBs will put 285 yards and 2 TDs passing against this defense. In fact, he was the 1st one who did this all year just now. Again, not saying this was an amazing game, but he made some good plays there too. He was pressured a lot and there was no consistent running game like Indiana had. He paled in comparison to Mendoza, but this performance was not bad IMO given the opposition.
no one cares about yardage when he’s down 5 touchdowns. And he was down 5 touchdowns cause he kept turning the ball over
It was garbage time when he put up his stats vs a soft zone. I’m not hating on the kid I think he’s a fine prospect but I don’t feel he’s even close to leading a pro franchise. He’s far too raw and frankly inexperienced at the QB position. Simply not enough reps and it shows up all the time vs good teams on film. 1 year college starters very rarely work out. Nevermind on a team that doesn’t have a good CS in place. Thrown into the fire here with a piss poor coaching staff he’s got no chance to succeed and will bust worse than Wilson.
Yeah, if you are an Oregon fan sure. But aside from Oregon losing impacting Dante's decision, I don.t give a fuck about them. I care about evaluation of a prospect, and he made some good NFL level throws under a lot of pressure to get these 285 yards. Got two TDs, converted on 2pt. Indiana NEVER took the foot of the gas pedal. The pick 6 was awful, but he rebounded. But that TO when the RB was too close to him, that was not Moore's fault at all. It was a terrible game for Oregon, but I don't think from prospect evaluation perspective, it was a terrible game at all for Moore. Could he use another year in College? Sure. Bit he could also come out and sit for a while. He's got some really good skills.
Even the commentators specifically mentioned Indiana was not playing soft zone, and they SHOULD be to waste the clock but did not and never took the foot off the gas pedal. Moore made some big time throws while getting hit to move the ball. Again, I am not saying this was a great game. Just not a bad one either. Yeah, he could stay a year, I can see that. But then again, if he comes out I would not play him right away like Zach. He does need to sit for some time, maybe half a year or even a year. But he can learn a lot if he practices with NFL players. Coaching is a problem, hopefully we can get a better QB coach and a passing coordinator soon. His Oregon OC coach left though too.
Build the team around the QB with all these picks, focus on the veteran QB market, maybe take a swing at a mid round prospect and focus on 2027.
The Jets should sign 2 FA QB's. Besides Mendoza and maybe Chambliss, there is no other college QB at this point ready to play next season. There's no way you waste a valuable rebuilding draft chip, which could be used to address a myriad of positions on the team, for a project college QB. Needs to be a more finished product at the college level.
Dante has raw talent, specifically raw arm talent. His quick release is what scouts must be loving. For me as I said in my evaluation is that it pops off the screen. It truly is special. What he needs is more live bullets. Simple as that because his pocket awareness, leadership, command and poise is nowhere close to being pro ready. He’s a young kid with 1 year as a starter so it’s understandable. Pocket awareness is so important I can’t stress that enough and unfortunately you have it or you don’t. That sense of pressure can only improve by live game reps. Next year he will still be a top 10 pick unless there is an injury. Whoever is advising him should be stressing to stay in school. The Jets would destroy this kid. Specifically the Jets coaching staff because they’re on the hot seat going into next year and will make desperate decisions.
Rolling the dice on Beck in the mid rounds is a decent idea. He is a poor mans Matt Ryan though. I watched a lot of him last year when he was with Georgia. I will dive in and watch his Miami tape and see if there is any improvement to his arm strength, accuracy and footwork.
Mendoza and Mateer are the only 2 true pro ready QBs and Mateer might even go back to OU. Mendoza is going #1 so I would waste my time on him. Mateer on the other hand if he goes pro is the kid we need on this team. He is the type of player that will change the culture here. His love for the game, gamer mentality, live arm, experience as a 3 year starter and infectious will to make plays will lift his teammates to play harder. If you see your quarterback laying his body on the line to get an extra yard all of a sudden that becomes contagious.
Beck is solid. He’ll be at least a quality backup in the league, with a ceiling of being a quality starter but not elite. Try and get him in the 3rd maybe by trading down from 1st/2nd round. Moore isn’t ready, and the Jets are not a team that can draft a QB 2 overall and still sit him for a year (or 2). We don’t have anyone in the building with a proven track record of working with and developing QB’s.
Agree on pocket awareness and that's really where Mendoza separates himself, IMO. His mobility in the pocket and his judgment of when to tuck and run are elite. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
