This is why I'm tamping down my incredulity at this point. Why shatter anyone's dreams or hopes now? If you want Burrow, damn skippy! Let's go get him, or, at the very least, we can HOPE we get him! I'd be O.K. with dealing 2 picks for the guy. He's got at least a decade left in him for sure. At this point, all unicorns, gold at the end of the rainbow, fairies...hell, all manner of hope and fantasy should be entertained because the NY Jets will do a whiz bang job, in short order, of dashing and obliterating any and all hope and dreams.
I highly doubt there's any scenario where we draft a QB that high at 2 and also bring in a higher priced vet like Willis or Mills. I think the likelihood of it being one or the other is much higher. Furthermore, what about the rest of the team? We still need to use all these picks on impact guys at other positions. I'd much rather take an instant impact guy like Bain at #2 and address QB via FA with someone like Willis or Mills. Too many holes on this team to go that deep in at QB in one offseason in terms of high draft pick and a somewhat pricey FA QB. Finally, Moore is a project who isn't going to play next year so I think it would be really hard for Mougey to sell the fanbase and everyone on this strategy while he sits for an entire season given that you and others keep suggesting that Glenn is in Win-Now mode more than ever next season. It doesn't add up drafting a guy that high just to have him ride the pine for an entire season and while locking up a good amount of cap space in a higher priced FA QB like the two mentioned when your job is on the line. I think an either/or scenario is much more likely when it comes to addressing the QB position.
Mills and McKey are not high priced as they are still on rookie deals, but they will require some capital. However that capital maybe be 2027 mid round pick or something like that, although could be 3d rounder. I hope we can do 4th and change though. Willis will probably demand Fields type of deal. That's not great, but I don't think these are unreasonable expenditures for a QB lottery ticket. I know people do not want to give up assets, and neither do I, but without a QB we are fucked either way. We have to increase our chances at getting a QB solution. As far as the rest of the team, yes we need to improve, but can we agree that QB is the most important by very far? It's not enough to just get a veteran. We need more shots at a solution. People keep bringing up Bain, and I like him too, but we just had Q here. How much did he help this coaching staff? He helped some, but we won 1 of 8 with Q. Again a QB, particularly a high level prospect not only increases probability of winning more, but also makes coaches want to come to the place with a QB. And Moore could probably start mid year a la Dart. Besides, from everything I read Bain is not a blue chip prospect like Bosa, Q, etc... He is one of quite a few really good/solid prospects. Either way, we need a QB, and if there a top 2 consensus prospect like Moore is sitting at 2, run to the podium.
The second overall pick is pretty strong. I think 2 firsts plus a second gets it done. Maybe a second added in 2027
From CIN’s pov that’s getting D Moore plus a first and 2nd for Burrow. Zero chance. They will want both our firsts this year, a 2nd, and at peadt a 1st and 2nd next year.
Who knows in hypotheticals, but I don’t think two firsts (even if it includes this year’s 2nd overall) and a second gets it done for Burrow…I think the asking price would start at 3 first rounders. Didn’t the Browns give up 3 first rounders for Watson? Hard to imagine Cincy settling for less. And honestly I don’t see why Cincy would really even consider it But fun to talk about
^ Yeah, Burrow would require 3 first rounders and a 2nd most likely. Top 5-7 franchise QB's don't grow on trees. The Bungles aren't letting him go for anything less than a King's Ransom. Their owner is the cheapest owner in the entire league. He will want someone to overpay big-time to let Joe go. Don't kid yourselves. Moving on.
I think 2 plus 33 plus a first and second next year gets it done. Basically 3 first rounders. From the press conferences that I have heard, it seems like he's pretty much done with Cincinnati. I might be totally wrong. Also, if you're saying that the owner is really cheap, what else would he love more than getting rid of a huge contract and drafting a rookie QB on a rookie deal
I hear you but it's a moot point. The Bungles aren't getting rid of him and he's basically come to peace with staying there according to most media reports. It will be interesting to see how much he forces ownership's hand with bringing in some high priced FA's to help him try and get back to another Super Bowl. Anyways, he wont be a Jet so moving on.
I have no idea what you're reading but just watch the Ohio St game last week and the Notre Dame game earlier this year and get back to me. Bain is firmly THE blue chip rush end in this draft. His first step is ridiculous. The cool thing about him is they can play him inside and outside. But he's a natural edge/bull rusher. And edge rushers are much more of a premium than D tackles. Edge rushers like Von Miller win you Super Bowls. There's very few Aaron Donald's at DL ever and QW isn't one of them.
I will take a look. For now I just focused on the QB film, and for other players read guys like Connor Rodgers, Trevor Sikkema from PFF, Mel Kiper, Field Yates, who expressed these onions.
Imagine him and Sonny Styles at LB behind him…that’ll definitely change the culture of the front 7 lol
OR they roll with Murray then draft best receiver available to pair with Chase. Number of directions they could go.
I would trade 3 firsts for Burrow by the way, but it wouldn't involve the 2nd overall pick and no additional picks. 3 firsts straight up. 2026 16 overall, the higher of the two in 2027 then 2028 first.
1. Burrow isn't getting traded. People need to let that out of content comment line go already. 2. The people advocating for potentially spending multiple picks at QB are doing so pushing the same fatally flawed logic that continually chooses to ignore that projected QB development/production isn't a static value. One you can just copy and paste between teams and see a mirror result. The Jets are not simply "increasing their odds of hitting on a QB" by drafting Sam Darnold if it's ultimately the Jets version of Sam Darold being spit out on the other side. Beyond that and in regards to any idea of doubling up with a secondary QB pick this year... that actually just amounts to more wishcasting into the abyss. It's like all some of you guys can focus on is a desired need to eat steak every single day of the week. So by that isolated want logic of course we should spend a large chunk of our paycheck stocking up on meat that we can store away for the next few months!! Just need to ignore and forget about the broken fridge/freezer at home (that you have no current plans of fixing in the next year) to get to where that decision approach makes more sense.
