If not him, it's probably gonna be Marcus Mariota, Kirk Cousins, Russell Wilson, Jimmy Garapollo or Jacoby Brisett... or the Jets sign a riskier younger guy with higher bust potential. My logic with Jones was that he's the youngest Qb (27) who is not a running Qb guaranteed to not stink and at least be serviceable. Realize if Moore doesn't declare, we're looking at 2027 to draft a 1st round Qb and with that we probably need to sign a Vet on a 3 year contract.
Are you kidding me? You want to trade the equivalent of a 3rd rounder for Mac Jones? So we’ve been through half of potentially the most awful first round class of QB’s in history and you want to trade a 3rd rounder to make it 3/4’s on f the worst QB class in history? Throw Dallas a 2nd rounder for Lance while you’re at it.
I guess you were happy when the Jets drafted Wilson and got rid of Darnold. I hated it and hate how the Jets approach the Qb position every year. They put all their eggs in one basket, it's why every season ends in frustration at game 8 for us Jets fans. Given their inability to draft and develop a Qb, I'd like to take a more progressive approach and back up that draft pick with a contingency plan: Rookie and Vet (under 30) - Hate all you want, Mac Jones (just 27) ranked 9th in Qbr this year. A full season projection would have him at 27+ tds, 4k+ yards, 70% completion... This translates to the best season ever by Jets Qb.
No I hated drafting Wilson. I took abuse here for months leading up to that draft adamantly arguing there was not a QB in the draft worth taking in the first 4-5 rounds. I also think it’s stupid to give away picks for Jones because he sucks.
Agree, I hate trading picks, would piss me off if we traded a 2nd and lost out on any of these guys we drafted over the last 15 years - Elijah Moore Denzel Mims Jace Amaro Christian Hackenberg Devin Smith Stephen Hill Vlad Ducase Kellen Clemens Mike Nugent
Would be very surprised if the 49ers accepted less than a 2nd-round pick for Mac Jones. Too many teams need quarterbacks, and Jones is one of the easiest veterans you can sell yourself on actually being a competent starter. Plus, Purdy has had several injuries, so the 49ers have no reason to sell him for nothing. I'm on the Malik Willis bandwagon, mostly because he only costs money. He's looked good in limited action, and he's young enough where he has the upside to be the long-term answer. I'm willing to throw pretty stupid money at Willis. Best case scenario, you have young long-term QB option (at a bargain for 3 years) with 5 first-round picks in the next 2 drafts to build around. Worst case scenario, you draft a 1st-round QB in 2027, and you're still paying less money for your QB room than most teams. I keep floating 3 years, $100M with the 3rd year being relatively easy to get out of. If Jones were an FA, I would probably be saying the same thing about him.
Good point, let’s trade all our draft picks since prior GM’s that aren’t here anymore were bad. Seriously, trade them all for FA’s based on your logic.
I wouldn’t say Mac Jones is guaranteed not to stink at all. In fact, I think outside of that Shanahan system, or maybe with O’Connell, but outside of that, I do think he’d stink. Very much so. Especially with us. Plus he’s a douchebag. Stay away please. Far away.
Can’t do that full season projection shit…it doesn’t hold up…a player can play well for a game or two then shit the bed. Mike White also had a few great games for us … didn’t mean it was sustainable over a full season. Teams get film. They adapt. I think someone here had been saying something similar about Fields’ production over 6 games for the Steelers, and what it would look like over a full season. It’s bullshit. If he was capable of doing that, he’d be doing that already for some team. He’s not. He sucks. He’s sucked for a long time. He got into that Shanahan system that has made most any QB look decent to great. Wish we could figure THAT out. But no, Mac Jones would suck here. I’d sooner take a flier on a guy like Willis or a trade for a guy like Mills. Shit, I still think Jacoby Brissett is better, and I don’t like him much either. But no, you can’t take Jones’ play in this system for a few games and conclude that “over a whole season it would be X, Y, or Z”
Strawman argument. Not what I am saying at all. My point is, you sign an over the hill vet and draft a 1st round Qb, and don't hit on him... you set the team back 3-4 years. This has been the Jets way.
The lack of vision on this board is unsettling. Everyone wants to rinse and repeat which totally has not worked. Did we not learn anything last year w/Fields (Willis) and Taylor (34 year old Brissett)? Jones has played on 2 decent teams, just 2. His rookie year, where he threw 21 tds and 3800 yards and this year w/SF. After 5 years of NFL experience and 8 games of solid play, you can't fathom a projection where he'd have similar production for 9 more games this season? Yet people can project Malik Willis's 2 games where he threw for 121 yards and 288 yards and 1 td in each as starting caliber Qb worth paying $40M/2 years. Mike White is a terrible comparison as he throws too many picks and never had a stretch of solid play. It would be one good game, followed by a disastrous one. Fields has the same issue as Willis, can run but can't throw Td's. The hatred for Mac Jones runs deep, not based on reality. His stats are aligned with Darnold and Daniel Jones before their breakout seasons. This is exactly what the Jets should be looking for (even if not Jones), 25-28 year old Qb's who played on bad teams. I'm not a big fan of trading draft picks, but the Jets are currently slated (I believe) to have 12 picks. Odds are they will be trading some to move up. This board is truly passionate but definitely illogical.
He probably isn't, but only will cost $4M, which means we can sign/put together a better team around Moore. You let him play next year, have Moore sit and learn. If Jones plays ok, you extend 2 years and have him backup/be the veteran Qb presence to help groom Moore. Say what you want, Jones has an excellent % percentage and understands how to play the Qb position. He's young enough that there's still a possibility he can be a better than average starter, which he was this year in 8 games (go look at Qbr). The same thing was said about Sam Darnold and Daniel Jones at one point, so...
49ers are an intelligent organization, they can see the disparity in lack of decent FA QBs this year. I'm sure they would love to keep Jones as a cheap backup to an oft injured Purdy, they will try and fleece any team that wants him or simply keep him which would be smart.
Exactly. If Jones was a FA I’d consider signing him. Hell, I’d consider offering a conditional pick in 2027, say a 5th that can move all the way up to a second based on performance, which then at least gives us some insurance for his inevitable sucking. But a 2nd or 3rd this year? Hell no. Jones is a solid backup, nothing more. The only way SF would consider trading him is if the offer was ridiculous.
Agree, it might be too costly. Will also depend if Moore declares. If he doesn't then maybe worth trading for Jones (as we are looking at '27 to draft a 1st round Qb). If Moore declares, maybe sign Kirk Cousins as the Vet who takes the reigns for a year.
There's a component I've not heard floated and that is, "What if Jones doesn't WANT to come here?" Jones is going to have options. The ONLY option I don't see for Jones is going to Arizona. San Fran isn't going to deal him in division. Outside that, the sky is the limit and too many teams need a starter/bridge QB. To be quite frank, I don't see either Mills, Willis OR Huntley coming to this team. Again, our reputation precedes us and there are options for these men with the NY Jets dead last in desirable landing spots, especially at the QB position. Other than Cousins, who's made his bag a couple times, the rest have at least a decade or more left in the league if they can swing it and they will be looking for some place that offers them the potential to compete for the starting gig and/or the possibility to be that bridge guy with a springboard to a starting gig elsewhere which, again, is not the Jets. We are going to be where we always are, trolling for the "lesser" QB's who are willing to take a chance because they are either close to being out of the league on merit or aging out and looking for that "last gasp." Cousins, ironically enough, kind of sits in a similar position as Jones, from a playing perspective. Penix is MORE brittle than Purdy which means, like Jones, he's going to get probably a good chunk of playing time in Atlanta just like Jones is in San Fran. Food for thought while we're trying to figure out our QB situation while "our QB" is busy playing ball in Seattle.
