I didn't want Darnold at all but after the draft was over I wanted the Jets to keep Darnold on the roster and let them battle it out while they both were on rookie contracts and the decision about the fifth year option was still in the future. The organization instead chose to load their big easter basket with a single egg.
Agree. Not to mention Sanders dropped like a rock to the cheap rounds. He was massively overrated back in January. Dart while rated 44 went far ahead in front of him. Sanders rode the big hype because of his dad. I think due to the scarcity of QBs Mendoza will go most likely higher than if he was in next year draft, For QBs after Mendoza the rest is a crap shoot. Moore, while very talented and raw he would not, IMHO be a day one season starter in the NFL and would be ranked around or slightly behind Dart if he was in last year’s draft. I don’t have a good vibe at all past Mendoza for a near term starter. We might even trade the pick down and load up.
Well, that is insane. I purposely watched Bain and would draft him with my first pick if Mendoza is gone.
I love Bain. He’s tenacious. But don’t be surprised if he falls. If his arms are measured as short as they’re projected to be, he’ll have the shortest arms of any potential first round prospect. I personally don’t really care about that shit. Terrell Suggs was built like a t-rex too and he’s a HOFer. But his projected fall down the boards might be preemptively anticipating poor measurables.
Scouts are super high on Moore with many preferring him to Mendoza due to a higher ceiling. He's got rare mechanics, a ultra smooth throwing motion and lightning release and can complete throws no one else in college would dare to even attempt. He will go no later than pick 2 and is a much better "college" prospect vs Dart, it's not even close.
You want the Jets to get more eggs. I want them to get a damn basket first. They just keep throwing the damn things on the ground.
So you think he is ready or does he need to sit behind a vet for a year? I take it that would be your pick at two?
I get it, but what sort of infrastructure are you waiting for the Jets to get? They have the only offensive line in the NFL that played every snap together this year (knock on wood) and in large part were pretty good. They have a #1 receiver. They have a young athletic tightend. They have a good back and even if he doesn’t come back, it’s not an incredibly hard position to fill. So if the Jets sign a receiver and a guard/center, take a runningback in the draft (or some combination of that since they have a lot of cap space), what are we waiting for? The Bears fixed their offensive line woes in an offseason by signing 3 IOL and took a TE/RB in the draft. Same with the Commanders the year they drafted Daniels. They refurbished the entire offense. This is the best infrastructure for a young QB the Jets have put together since they drafted Sanchez. And they have the ability to add to it with a lot of cap space and draft picks.
I agree totally. I think the Jets are precisely 1 draft away, which is the closest they've been in a very long time. 1 IOL starter, (2 if they don't expect AVT back healthy), 1 WR2, and I'd like to see some of the other picks go to plus up the RB and TE positions. Again, I know other teams can develop a QB and do other things at the same time -- the Jets have not demonstrated this capacity since ever.
The below is silly though. If you try to wait for the absolute perfect conditions, you’re going to run into losing your core to free agent, this guy gets hurt, etc. You can fix the three things you want in this offseason with the amount of picks and cap space we have.
Careful there...there are people on this board that feel as if most of the players on this team are "Street Ball" players and shouldn't be in the NFL. It's why we got blown out the last quarter+ of the season!
I'd prefer Mendoza for the Jets as he doesn't require as much development and is less risky. My thoughts on Moore have shifted - I first watched his highlights and was amazed at some of the throws he was able to complete. His arm talent popped for me. Then I watched some full games and was less impressed. He's a little stationary, the scheme Oregon runs is a little gimicky (a lot of screens and then some bombs to guys with 5-10 yards of separation). It's not typical NFL pro offense/concepts and Moore is not ultra athletic when the pocket breaks down, will make bad decisions. This could be a problem if taken by the Jets. BUT - Ultimately, as I kept watching I'm seeing his quick release and ability to generate velocity without much windup, it's his accuracy that has me sold. He can complete WR screens like Mahomes (turn fire, feet not even full set, mostly just arm and ball explodes to WR). When things are working well, he looks like CJ Stroud. I think he can be a similar smooth NFL Qb, his arm is actually better imo. Also he is just 20 and has not fillled out. His arm is already a B+, it could get to an A. Sky is the limit. So yeah, the Jets have to take him at 2 imo. Too much talent to pass on, even if risky. Yes needs to sit a full season behind a Vet who really understands the game (maybe Cousins).
Here's what I want to know about Moore, actually 2 things: Does he operate under center Can he read defenses If the answer to either of those is no then he needs to sit for as long as it take for that to happen, unless folks feel he'll never have either of those qualities. Then it's a hard no. A final question: what is the "reality on the ground" about this kid being ABLE to sit a whole year, two...three? That's what it would take. Personally, I don't think Glenn has the stones to sit him a whole year no matter what is happening on the field. If that's the case then I don't want Moore. They'll destroy him, Glenn will be fired (a year too late as always) and the team will be right back to where it was in 2024, 23...22...21...2010...
I agree, we shouldn't wait for perfect conditions-- current conditions would be acceptable if there were better QB candidates available. As we agreed before, conditions are better than they have been in a long time. It would also be quite reasonable to draft a QB now and have them sit for a year -- again, if there were any prospects I liked. For the second part, I still say another team could, but my faith in the Jets is near zero.
Thank you, great feedback. I’m of the opinion that right after the playoffs, the Jets will sign a vet for next year. That will open up more options for them in the draft depending how the first pick goes.
Yeah, regardless of what they are thinking with the 2nd overall pick, they need to replace all three current QBs, so a vet is for sure needed. Will be interesting to see who they chase…not much there in free agency as usual so it may be a low- to mid-level trade… The type of guy they sign will be affected by what they are thinking draft-wise…if it’s a low level starter just to start the first few games and throw the rookie in around midseason, it’d be one type of guy…if they either don’t like the QB at #2 or really want him to sit, they’d have to trade for a better vet…but yeah, they need to sign someone regardless
I predict they will sign Malik Willis, who will prove to be total fools gold. They’ll draft Moore and have no choice but to rush him in attempts to save their jobs. Moore will look like shit, be called a bust, and the new regime will probably be looking to draft a QB of their preference in 2027.
Wouldn't surprise me if Willis ends up a Dolphin. Better scheme fit and a fresh start without a future starter (1st round Qb) waiting in the wings. The usual Jets strategy would be to - draft Moore, bring back Tyrod Taylor as the backup and have Brady Cook battle it out with Martinez for PS Qb spot.
That will ensure a top 5 pick again in 2027. But of course, they'll win one or two games and end up not getting the top pick again. The wheels on the bus go round and round...
