QB is legitimately the only position that can save a coach. No other position has nearly the same impact no matter how good the player is. The signing a vet thing is possible but most of the QBs who are available are available for a reason and aren't going to turn things around enough to save the coach's job. I'll be shocked if we don't draft a QB and play him. Reason #1000 why retaining Glenn is a horrible mistake. At least we don't have to worry about trading up to do it and squandering our draft capital in the process anymore though.
Cute but that's not how it works. You don't just draft a QB for the sake of drafting a QB. That's why the Jets are in the mess they're in now. That QB has to be the goods and Moore is not a finished product by any means. Build the entire roster with impact players for next season (which Moore will not be) and address the QB via FA and in 2027 draft.
True but those positions can be improved a little too…. The main thing right now is that defense. It’s horrible all over. If the Jets play this draft right they can get at least 4 new starters out of the draft….plenty of talent if they pick their spots right. Edge, DT, LB, S…. After that’s settled go ahead and draft one of those mid round QBs for now roll the dice maybe that Clemson QB? He may only turn out to be back up material but don’t the Jets need that too? See what Glenn does with all this in 26. Doesn’t work? Go hire an offensive minded coach for ‘27 and supply him with the 3 first rounders. They would be picking high regardless if this were the scenario …. Go draft your QB then.
We just traded away two pro bowl caliber defensive players, it didn't make a difference. What makes a difference is sustaining drives, time of possesion, and giving your D a chance to play agressive. Fix the QB first...
Im saying you and I cannot predict how these qb's will shake out. The only thing that seems consistent is the Jets make the wrong decision
It would surprise the hell out of me. It would make me incredibly happy, but it would be a huge surprise.
Whats to say Moore doesn't run hot and beat Indiana and then win the title. Raiders could be enamored by him with new coaching staff coming. Its going to be a process for sure but I do not see Mendoza as a lock for #1. He is very good and I like him but these guys will need some seriously good coaching around them and Jets are for sure lacking there. I honestly know very little about Moore but some people out West love him, the Raiders fans like him a lot too
People hate when I point this out, but this fundamental outlook difference starts up to top with Woody, and (generally speaking) I really don't think there is a fanbase in sports that complains more (after-the-fact) about getting exactly what they always end up banging the table for (the superhero QB fix attempt) then Jets fans. I woke up today praying to see a Tanner Engstrand was fired headline to keep the ball rolling after yesterday's lucky draw on how the draft seeding played out. No dice. Let the re-burying of the same core problem begin. Groundhog day with this franchise.
Unless we get a Lamar Jackson or something similar we trading down to stockpile more picks seems unlikely but I also want us desperately to fix the qb position
At the risk of being flamed, I believe many here are totally understating our GM capabilities, which IMO are very good and most likely to get much better, and overstating AG pull with Woody and his ability to influence the selection. AG is in no position to dictate personnel moves. He is lucky to even have a job. His bravado was not remotely justified. So far, he has shown no plus side whatsoever, not developed one single person, completely destroyed the good this team had, and sink this team to an all-time low by a landslide. He should not be allowed to dictate personnel selections, especially when it comes to a QB. He should avail himself of a serious no shit QB/OC assistant to supplement our OC, let them help Moug in the selection, and stay the hell out of the way and instead fix this putrid defense staring with a top DC.
If a capable potential franchise QB is there at #2 then I agree. I just don’t see Dante Moore as that guy. He’s too young for one thing and coming to NY expected to be a savior is probably not going to be the best situation for him. If he were smart he would take the NIL money, play another year and get some more playing time under his belt. I forgot to mention in my previous reply that a mid round QB would not be the starter (unless of course he wows during the preseason etc) the Jets would be signing a FA/ or trade as the planned starter for 26.
In this case they will absolutely draft a QB for the sake of taking a QB, the coach is on the hot seat, that's what happens.
The people saying we shouldn't force a QB in the draft are the same people who are defending keeping Glenn, not realizing that keeping Glenn is a large reason we're going to force a QB in the draft.
Right? It's hilarious, desperate coaches make desperate decisions. They aren't doing what's best for the team long term because they probably won't be there for it so they have to make hurried decisions now to save themselves, they aren't wrong in doing so either.
Not to rain on anyone's parade but for me it doesn't matter boys...AS long as this CS is intact, this team will lose. They only thing AG accomplished was to continue RS "losing" culture. That being said, I have NO faith in AG and his staff to 1) motivate players, 2) make cogent decisions and 3) have his team (or players) consistently play competitive FB.
Agree that it’s rare, but drafting a rookie QB gives the coach a built in excuse to go to the owner and buy himself a year to develop him…signing a hold the fort guy and continuing to lose gives the hot seat coach ZERO excuses. I’m not saying its the right move, I’m just saying that if your coach is on the hot seat and has a high pick, he’s taking a QB
Forcing and wanting are two different things. Do you honestly think people can't read right between that crap? Smokescreen, nothing more! You've already made it clear that you want Mooore so stop conflating the two arguments to support your wanting to draft him. The last thing the Jets need is a project who won't be on the field next year. That is the definition of Moore. HARD PASS.
