Things are starting to feel a little different…

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  1. NOVAJET

    NOVAJET "2020 TGG Fantasy Football Champ"

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    I like some of the vids that are popping up and as I have said all along I hope I'm wrong but still nowhere near sold on Glenn. I like to keep feet firmly planted after drinking enough Kool-aid to fill a swimming pool these past couple decades. 3 wins against bad teams/QBs isn't going to change that much for me, especially since special teams had to be special to get there. The last game the last 12 seconds was a shit show that almost cost the game and the "going for it on 4th" decisions are inconsistent af and he seems to just guess on the fly when to make them.
    That said he has made some good challenges and seems to be improving in some areas. Wilks isn't improving at all and surprised Glenn doesn't do more to help him since that's supposed to be his side of the ball.
    The pressers are much better (maybe someone tipped him off?), the team seems to be playing hard for Glenn and they have some juice at the moment, can't say I am too upset with the improvements he is making and he has backed off some of the pointless bravado BS but he still struggles with the logistics in game from what I can tell. I do see improvements though so that is a positive and I love Moug so there's that.
    My thing with Glenn still is that he seems to be of the old school conservative mindset. G&P, play good defense and don't take chances and that's the same movie I have watched on loop forever with this team.
    This video has some good explanations on Wilks, he's been a huge problem all year. Some great stuff on Will McDonald at the 26 mark.
    https://www.youtube.com/live/cQxWlgWGrMI?si=igD_FK-KmRVRec67
     
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    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    All Glenn has to do is follow his own advice. Focus on doing HIS job! Yes, he is a 1st time head coach and yes, he's learning on the job. We ALL HOPE he continues that and he focuses on being a head coach and nothing more. These "young" head coaches, the one thing hardest to learn, hell for any management position, is you do-not-have-to-do-everything-by-yourself. As long as he continues to get better at the things a head coach must do everything else will fall into place.

    I absolutely loved him as a player and I hope I can love him as a HC. He has all the opportunity in the world and, if he can bring THIS cursed franchise around, he'll be fucking HoF bound on JUST THAT alone! :D
     
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    Definitely a low bar, but I'll take my progress where I can get it.
     
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    See my above about the improvements. IMO, Wilks is gone after the final whistle of the season. Glenn simply can't let him stay if he's to continue to be the HC because, if we had a top 20 defense, they would have at least 2 or 3 more wins. To be frank, I LIKE that he hasn't gotten in Wilks grill. Wilks is the one with a hell of a lot more Defensive coaching experience than Glenn. One thing I learned some time ago is the ego of these people is usually on steroids. If Glenn was going to get "into" Wilks it would have happened by now. As it is, Glenn needs to be laser focused on becoming a better head coach and not the backup D-Coordinator. Head coaches that can do that kind of thing are usually very seasoned, experienced and have been the top guy for a while.
     
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  5. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    On this note… we’re actually in the upper echelon of the league when it comes to knowing when to go for it:

    https://x.com/benbbaldwin/status/1995884461461029166?s=46&t=eaLIxbRmBqelegocbpHIVQ

    So we can put that notion to rest ;)
     
  6. NOVAJET

    NOVAJET "2020 TGG Fantasy Football Champ"

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    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    It’s matching the eye test too
     
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    3 wins against bad teams, just keep in mind, the Jets as a whole are the worst franchise/team in the NFL, so it's definitely progress , I mean we were 0-7, bad teams, but still better than we were.
     
  9. NOVAJET

    NOVAJET "2020 TGG Fantasy Football Champ"

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    Kinda my point, worst start for a HC in franchise history and certainly not the worst roster.
    Not my eyes lol, look I'm just being objective and not having a short memory. This team looked disgustingly bad through the first 7 and was heading off the rails in a hurry. Things have started to turn around but that's the biggest ship this franchise has ever seen to turn around. That's not instant coffee it's flying to Columbia to pick beans. I know you love Glenn, probably the biggest Glenn apologist/Homer I've ever seen, like borderline on his payroll bad but let's just let this thing play out before anointing him king of NY please.
     
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    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    The classic “you’re just an apologist/homer/on his payroll” defense. It’s much easier if you say “I disagree with you”. It at least holds together some semblance of an adult conversation. Mind you, you’re saying this after I am linking you to literal statistical proof of what plenty of people are saying passes the eye test.

    What makes that even more laughable is I was calling him one and done in the midst of that 0–7 start. But I’m talking to a guy who’s being objective and doesn’t have a short-term memory apparently.
     
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    NOVAJET "2020 TGG Fantasy Football Champ"

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    Sorry if I don't recall you calling him one and done, more so that everytime I or anyone else posts anything negative whatsoever about Glenn you immediately post a defense of Glenn no matter what it is.
     
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    You are hitching your wagon to this guy but I don't know BA. They say "talk is cheap, money buys the whiskey'. This guys is not an X's and O's guy. Hurrah type cheerleader attitude with Saleh failed. I am really done believing this "Leader of Men" type low football IQ coaches.

    Look I hope Glenn becomes a good Head Coach and wins with us. I am returning back to NJ in a week and my dream is to go to as many Jets games next year to make up for this 1 year gap.

    But I don't have hope my friend. We will lose 2-3 years with Glenn until we understand he is not the guy and go hire another defensive coordinator as a first time Head Coach.
     
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    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    I feel like there’s literally no basis for you to call him a low IQ coach. At some point we have to stop pretending that last month or so is the same team and staff we saw the first month or so. I swear some people are just hell-bent on being miserable.
     
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    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Sorry I posted a fact in response to something you said that wasn’t true. And then your answer was “well I don’t care that’s my opinion”. I dunno, that to me paints one of us as being objective and one of us not being objective but not in the way you think.

    I’ve said plenty of times that there are so many fair criticisms of Aaron Glenn. We don’t need to make any up. I feel like I’ve said those exact words before too.
     
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    NOVAJET "2020 TGG Fantasy Football Champ"

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    When did the staff change lol, have they gotten better than the worst start in franchise history? Yes, do they deserve praise? We will see. Noone is trying to be miserable, some of us are just trying to wait and see if he can truly turn it around not just win a couple games against terrible teams. A year ago I was the most sunshine poster on here, hated the negativity and all the naysayers were right and I was wrong, just not going to repeat my mistake until I see some real tangible evidence.
    I like Glenn and I do think he's improving, he's just not the guy I don't think. Not being miserable, silly thing to say.
     
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  16. NOVAJET

    NOVAJET "2020 TGG Fantasy Football Champ"

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    That "fact" response you refer to is just silly stats from a non reputable site. The analytics had the decision in the cowboys game as correct when anyone with any sense knew it was a bad idea, analytics don't take game flow and situations into account in those cases. You can hang your hat on it if you want and I don't have anything against you at all and agree with a lot of your posts but if you don't think you are a Glenn Homer go back and see how many times you defended Glenn on this site the last few weeks man, it's a lot.
     
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  17. Brook!

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    Nah man. I am an eternal optimist. I am just super cautious about Glenn. Also, my low IQ comment was not for Glenn only. We already saw a failed experiment with Saleh and hurrah type of clips don't get me excited anymore. Book is still open on Glenn. So he might turn out to be good and I will happily eat crow. But personally if there was a bet, I would bet my money on him not being successful with the Jets long term.
     
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    The point remain though, how is Glenn low IQ? I don't get that. Again there's SO many valid criticisms, why are we making some up? Thats what I mean when I say its a choice to be miserable. He's been through the scouting ranks, he's respected by guys from Parcells to Cowher to the players who say he changed their lives. He was a coach for years and even though the Lions D wasn't elite, they got better every year. So far this year the talent he's worked hand in hand with GM to bring in is working out. By the numbers he's making correct decisions in-game. I just don't see how he's dumb in any way.

    I understand why any Jets fan would be cautious but this part in particular doesn't feel warranted.
     
  19. Brook!

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    BA. I didn't call Glenn low IQ specifically. Book is still open. Rest of your message above, I have no objections. You are hopeful about him and I am not. I hope you are right.
     
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    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Im just confused I guess. Who were you calling low IQ? Saleh? I dont even think that was the case either. I think he was an absolutely horrendous people manager. 0 accountability, no discipline, no leadership. He was far too good of an X's and O's guy and not enough the executive type you need to run a team. Which is why he's an A+ coordinator.
     
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