Moore is my one and only selection at QB at this junction, just based on my eye test on the few games I watched him play, but I’m not willing to trade up that much for two picks. I’m hoping Cleveland screws the pick. Having said that, many here were talking about trading up for Mendoza, so I don’t understand the eagerness to trade up when you seemingly migh have two choices . Time will tell how it all shakes down.
I don’t think Moore declares. If he does he could be top 10. But I don’t think he does And as such I don’t think the remaining QBs in the draft will be top 10 picks. Something like Mendoza in the teens, Sellers 20s/30s (if he declares) and Simpson 2nd/3rd round that’s why the tanking talk here is so stupid. What are we going to tank for a safety? lol. If they want one of these QBs they can easily get him
Love it. There is no quitting with this team. This young group of players need to continue to grow together and get a taste of what it takes to win. It would be lovely you spank the fish.
Sellers made around $3M in NIL money this year. Word is he turned down a larger offer to stay at SC. He has the athleticism to be a #1 pick (or at least top 5). I'd bet the farm on him staying for another year, but I'm not so sure it will be at SC.
Boy, he did look slow in that Bama game. Seemed like he was way overly mindful of his position responsibilities & didn't rely on any instincts. Lot of games left, but I just get the feeling that we'll end up with at least 5 wins & be somewhere 7-10 out of position to get Rueben Bain Jr. Arvell Reese could be gone as well. What I did see that I really liked from Keldric Faulk was him using his length to completely walk OT Kadyn Proctor backwards into Ty Simpson on a few occasions. Not that I'm so impressed w/Proctor - but he is a big man projected 1st round OT. I'd just like to see us get more size & strength at the DE position. I'd like to see us keep JJohnson. I wanted us to keep Bryce Huff, quite frankly. Side note = I'd sure like to hear your thoughts on what to do if we end up 7-10 & Caleb Downs is there.
He’s a classic 3-4 5technique defensive end I think. Problem is that teams don’t really play a 3-4 any more. He could play strong side end against the tightend but I don’t think he’s an impactful enough player to take in the top ten. On your scenario, you take Downs and don’t worry about it. He might be the best player in the country. I’d also entertain Carnell Tate. People like Tyson but he has a scary injury history. Tate is the most well rounded receiver in the draft in my opinion. He can win deep, he’s the best route runner in the class and he catches everything. His numbers don’t pop as much because Jeremiah Smith is on the other side. His touchdown route against Michigan was a thing of beauty.
You think that way because he really IS a classic 3-4 5technique defensive end. I'm just desperate to find a Greg Rousseau type player for the NYJ.
I have a friend really pushing the idea of trading down and taking Mauigoa from Miami. I’m generally against taking guards high unless they’re elite players and he really is an absolute monster in the class of Zach Martin or Quenton Nelson. You could entertain kicking Membou inside if you feel Mauigoa is a better tackle. Wouldn’t hate having a wall of an offensive line.
Let's see how it plays out, but as of right now main 3 QBs are consensus top 5: https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2026/consensus-big-board-2026 Tanking aside, I would be shocked if only one goes top 10, one top 20, and Simpson 2nd/3d. If all 3 declare, I think they will all be top 10, and probably top 5. Let's see what happens, but I do think Mooge will make a play to get one of them in top 10 or top 5. It might be for whoever is the last of the 3, since the price will be less there. I think he does this more than other QBs. All of them really a lot of times go to the 1st read since it is often open. But I have seen instances where he does make the reads, and does so fairly quickly. As an example take a look at the last game, 8:45 on the video below. 4th and 2, big play on the road against a good team. Looks left, the guy is completely covered, then looks towards the middle, open guy, strikes very quickly for 1st down. 13:00. Looks down field, does not see anything open, looks right, sidearms for a checkdown. All very quickly. I think the rumor about Moore going back to school started earlier, maybe prior to a month ago, when he was having a solid year, but not a spectacular one. It made sense then and he still might do it. But in the past month he looked like #1 prospect in the country. So, what appeared to be true then may not be true now, especially if his OC leaves: https://x.com/McShay13/status/1995655897084047579 . A lot may depend on how the College play-offs play out.
mock drafts always stock their top picks with QBs because they know people want to see that. It’s purely entertainment though and often incorrect
Maybe you need to re-evaluate draft patterns 2024 6 QB's in top 12 picks, 1, 2 and 3 2023 3 QB's in the top 4 picks 1, 2 and 4 2022 1 QB in the top 20 2021 5 QB's in the top 15, and again the 1,2,3 2020 4 QB's in the top 26, 1, 5 and 6 2019 3 QB's in the top 15, 1 and 6 2018 5 QB's in the top 32, 1, 3, 7 and 10 2017 3 QB's in the top 12, 2, 10, 12 2016 3 QB's in the top 26, 1 and 2 again.
I think Moore and Mendoza will probably go top 10. I don’t think Simpson ultimately gets drafted in the first round.
right and every year the mock drafts had even more QB picks in the top whatever linemen go earlier and QBs always fall. Compared to the media mock drafts. I mean look at last year, the mock drafts last year had Shadeur Sanders in the top 5 every single day
Sellers needs time to really study the ins and outs to passing game, but he’s by far my favorite prospect. Draft him if we can and sit him behind a guy like Mac Jones or whoever for a year. Sellers is very smart and man he loves football, I think he’ll catch up to the cerebral part of being an NFL QB with time and development.
Ok man, you pick one QB that dropped (ironically now starting), I gave you 9 years worth of QB's going in the top 3. https://www.tankathon.com/nfl/mock_draft They have 3 going in the first round, Saints, Raiders and Browns hard to argue against those 3 picking a QB tbh. All I was saying was, it is hardly just for entertainment purposes when all those QB's got drafted very high in the draft, year after year bar 1
They will change their mock draft 80 times before the actual draft and there will not be 3 quarterbacks in the top 5. It's entertainment
It's not just mocks. Recent drafts are stacked with QBs going early and in the 1st round. Which is why you see a success rate very low for QBs after round one in the last 5 years. Malik Willis is really the only guy I can recall lately who was a consensus 1st rounder, but slipped up. Maybe Simpson/Mendoza will fall into that category too, but that would be very unlikely. Yes, they will change, but to go from top 5 to 2nd/3d round is quite rare for a QB. Not saying it can't happen, just that it is VERY rare. Even Willis who was really the only one I can recall who slipped, was never in top 5 by any reputable analyst, like Kiper, etc, which Simpson and Mendoza are.
I mean, sure it is for entertainment, but there is also some level of accuracy there, especially when it comes to QBs, who always get pushed up in actual drafts too.
Nagle’s point is way exaggerated but it’s not as rare as you’re mentioning. Will Levis was talked about a lot as a top 10 pick. So was Jalen Milroe last year. Shedeur Sanders too. Before his last college season, Sam Howell was talked about as a potential elite prospect.
No its not rare at all. It happens every single year. The mock drafts in November are overloaded with QBs. By april they get closer to reality, after the 79th version. Hell even this year the mock drafts had Arch Manning the consensus number 1 for a little while lol. shadeur sanders, jaxson dart, jalen milroe, will levis, hendon hooker, malik willis, sam howell. These are all names of guys that appeared in mock drafts in the top 10s in october and november the last few years its a business mock drafting, I got nothing against it, its fun! I enjoy looking at mock drafts, especially when the Jets are terrible. But its a simple truth that they always overhype QBs and downplay linemen, the real football guys are doing the opposite. --- By April and version 84 they will be closer to reality. And this year's reality probably doesn't include Dante Moore in the draft at all, and Ty Simpson will be lucky to be a 1st rounder
