Navigating the modern prospect

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  1. NJJets

    NJJets Well-Known Member

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    Shadeur Sanders taught us something huge last year, and it’s only going to get worse and worse as time goes by. Social media is a massively effective tool to promote a prospect to a level well beyond their actual value as a player. By every measurable account, Sanders was a late round prospect. But by using a marketing hype machine via social media, he was able to be the talking point of almost every single media draft pundit out there. They all had him as a first rounder, Colin Cowherd demanded the Steelers trade their first and TJ Watt to move up to 2nd overall to take him (I can’t stand that dumbass).

    Of course Sanders also had the hype of his father, but you really don’t need that kind of pedestal to accomplish what Shadeur did. You need alot of money and a marketing team that understands the algorithms to constantly place a prospect into the spotlight.

    What Shadeur also showed the sports world is just how easily manipulated and uninformed the media draft experts actually are. Sure, they use information from teams and “anonymius sources” in the league to get the lowdown on players, and I’m sure they do some player analysis themselves, but I guarantee you they rely much more heavily on predictive market analysis based on who people are talking about and who’s doing the talking. Hype a player up through media influences, get some talking heads to mention said player, and over time the fire burns hotter and hotter and you get a movement of fans clamoring for a player they actually know very little about. In reality the media doesn’t care if the player is worthy, because if the player isn’t drafted highly they can continue to hype it as a divisive story. The media doesn’t care if they’re right, they care that you’re watching. This is coming more and more in the future, you’re going to see social media movements on HS kids, college kids, maybe even younger leagues to the point that we will know the names of players whether or not their on field performance warrants it.

    The one saving grace thus far is that the NFL execs and scouts seem to be a step ahead of it, and they at least evaluated Sanders as a player without the hype train and he was drafted where his play and talent dictated, but time and time again GM’s fall for the demand of the fanbase over their own common sense.
     
  2. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I think your third line is just patently false though. I think Shedeur’s father and the circus atmosphere is what made teams continually pass on him. Even as a 5th round pick, he has people who hate him and people who love him. Teams don’t want a polarizing person in their building.


    He’s the all time leader in CFB completion percentage, he led an offensive minded conference in passing yards, touchdowns, completion percentage, yards per attempt and passer rating. He led all of CFB in completion percentage.

    Whatever manipulation you think they were doing or able to do, it clearly failed. So if he was always truly a late round prospect, he landed where he was supposed to be, no?

    Regardless, I agree that evaluating prospects is way different now especially considering they will all mostly be multi-millionaires before they play a NFL preseason snap. I posted several years ago that it’ll hurt the NFL game in the long term since players will inevitably be rich enough to not want to play for too long.

    It looks like it’s likely going to help NFL Quarterbacks in their preparation for the pro game though. Bo Nix (5 years starting in college), Jayden Daniels (5 years), Penix (5 years starting) all had time to mature in college and grow into the position before they had to declare and be drafted later without a chance at being good or even playing.
     
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  3. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    First of all, it's a miracle that our stupid ownership didn't draft him. But second, the NFL is a results oriented business. 95% of teams (not the Jets and not the Browns, I mean the other teams with competent ownership) are not drafting a player unless they are certain he's the best available player based on their own scouting.
     
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    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    If Shedeur had elite traits and measurables, the extracurricular stuff wouldn’t have impacted his draft status. GMs simply didn’t think the talent was worth the circus. Past the 3rd round they went overboard but I think that part was a not so subtle fuck you to his pops and what they believe he stands for.
     
  5. NJJets

    NJJets Well-Known Member

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    He did land where I believe he should have. Polarizing or not, the NFL is starved for QB’s. I honestly don’t think scouts or organizations gave a shit about Deion one way or another. I just think the traditional evaluation markers won the day and did not allow the social media movement to alter their assessment. I’m encouraged by that. I’m also encouraged by what you mentioned with QB’s staying in college longer, I agree wholeheartedly that will help the game tremendously. I’m just curious as players gain the wealth to hire promotional teams to build up their social media profile fan support, what kind of impact it will have on teams come draft day. And how silly will draft pundits allow themselves to look by pushing the prospects that get clicks.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    In some areas it is easier. In the past you had to worry a lot about how money changes people and if a prospect could handle becoming a millionaire at 23 years old. Now they are already 23 year old millionaires and you already know how they handled it

    beating on Shadeur is getting old. He will get a chance to play before this season is over and we will see if he deserves all the hate.
     
  7. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Yeah - only adulation comes with no waiting.
     

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