2025 - Week 1: New York Jets vs Pittsburgh Steelers

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Brook!, Aug 30, 2025.

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Who will win?

Poll closed Sunday at 12:59 PM.
  1. Jets

    43.6%
  2. Steelers

    56.4%
  1. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    There's a few guys here who just don't seem to understand that the risk/reward for attempting a two point conversion is on a par with kicking a PAT. The former has a success percentage of 46-49% while the latter is about 95% for half the points. As soon as the ball is moved inside the two yard line the odds swing in favor of success and the two points. Your opinion does not override established facts.
     
  2. Jets OG fan

    Jets OG fan Well-Known Member

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    Um, it's the Jets we're talking about here. Traditional odds don't apply. This team has a smaller chance of conversion than most of the rest of the league.
     
  3. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    That's quite a specific statement - please supply a source to support it.

    Alternately, just admit you made it up.
     
  4. Jets79

    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    Ok so I was curious … quick google search shows that last year, the Jets were 8th in the NFL in two point conversions with a 55% success rate

    Funny but I would not have guessed that…of course last year’s team is a very different team than this year so may not carry over too much but just goes to show…sometimes the “feeling” doesn’t line up with the “facts” when we just keep losing and losing and losing
     
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  5. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Just looking back at this game, the offense did so much, Pitts had the odds to win this game similar to when we beat Cleveland with Flacco. I would say less than 5%. There were 5 TO ops in this game: two fumbles by them, two TO worthy throws by Rodgers, and one fumble by us. Pitts got lucky with every single one of these 5. On top of it the odds you mentioned above on conversions. I think Pitts basically got lucky as hell to win this game, that's really it.

    In addition to luck we could have won the game with slightly better coaching, like not picking Gipson on the active roster, avoiding terrible breakdowns in coverage on D by the DBs (AG is a former DB), stupid penalties like under Saleh. We played so much better than them that basically everything had to go right for them to win, and they took their <5% probability and won the lottery. AG could have ensured they would not even get the lottery ticket, but they did, and then incredible low probability dumb luck did the rest. Tough one to swallow.
     
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  6. Jets OG fan

    Jets OG fan Well-Known Member

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    The Jets fail when it matters most more than any other team in the league.
     
  7. Jets79

    Jets79 Well-Known Member

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    Man it for SURE feels that way.

    With the game on the line, feels like we can always count on a straight up fuck up or just plain bad luck.

    Doesn’t matter if we are on offense, defense or special teams

    On Offense, if we need to score to win, you can be almost sure that we will drop a pass, throw a pick, fumble the ball, have a holding call take away a score, etc.

    On Defense, you know we can always count on a roughing the passer call, a pass interference call, or a plain broken coverage

    On ST, you can count on us missing a FG and you can count on the other team making a 60 yard FG

    It for sure feels that way

    Because bad teams find ways to lose…and until we start winning, this mentality will be here…cutting Gipson was a good start…AG is showing he will not tolerate stupid mistakes…

    Good…
     
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  8. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Got it! You made up the previous statement and have doubled down with this one. Why even bother posting if you're only posting BS?
     

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