I am not trying discredit Allen at all. I am just saying that Buffalo managed his career a lot better in that 3d year than JD did Sam's. This is not to say Sam could be Josh - Josh is too good. But with similar help he could have ultimately improved to be perhaps something we saw in Minny, which is better than any QB we had in a very long time. Instead JD rolled out such shit next to him, he had no chance to develop. It then led to the sequence of painful events that transpired in the next 6 years. If JD did better for him, maybe things could have been different. But with garbage OL, Henrdon, Perriman, and Gore as his top weapons, the shit result was inevitable.
You have proof of this? Darnold was a team guy who always took accountability and said the right thing to the press. Where did you ever hear that he was a slacker? This is not something I ever heard of.
I saw an interview with Jordan Palmer going into their 3rd season that he worked exclusively with both QBs together the previous two summers. Darnold wasn't just hanging out at the beach, as some liked to believe.
let’s see he was never healthy here, he never improved here, he’s on his 5th team in 8 seasons, 3 of which gave him away for nothing. But you can believe it’s all because he had Breshad Perriman for 12 games once if you want. I think people are responsible for their own personal growth
So, no you do not have any evidence. Some guys are just better than others. Even very athletic players who spend lots of time in the film room never hang around long enough to get great at reading NFL defenses. You really seem to have an axe to grind with Sam who's biggest problem is that he is a young guy who started out in a bad situation and just hasn't put it together. This happens to a lot of young NFL QBs. Usually when you get the real head cases the press finds all about it and we get the heads up.
I am not sure you are getting the point when it comes to Perriman. It's not that Perriman played for 12 games and he ruined Sam. It's that Sam had such shit around him, that an absolute garbage WR (and garbage TE and and garbage RB and no OL) was his best weapon in 2020. And even he, as you pointed out, only played part of the year. Sam was put in position to fail by JD,, there is simply no denying it. I don't think any young QB could have succeeded with JD doing this. And again, Sam in Minny wasn't bad, even if they preferred McCarthy, certainly something to build on, especially if we could get something similar out of him in 2020 when he was 23 years old. But JD made sure there was no chance of that happening.
I’m sick of talking about breshad perriman. This will be the last time I use that name on this forum ever
Every QB drafted in the top 5 goes into a difficult situation by the way See the NFL gives the early picks to the worst teams
Salah wanted to be everybody's friend as a coach. Which is why he failed as a coach. The players need a coach, not a friend.
You know, that's true. It is almost impossible a team can hire back to back to back nitwits as bad as Idzik, MacMoron, and Douglas.
How does one even get to be interviewed for that kind of position if they are, as you say, a "nitwit" ?
Well shit, I got a cousin who lives in Jersey. Guys a dumb ass. If this GM doesn't work out, I'll tell him to call Woodys secretary.
I hold no brief in support of any of them, all terrible, but at some point you have to look for the common denominator to properly assign blame. Its Woody. Idzik was cornered into extending Rex when he didn’t want to. Mac had to sign Leveon Bell. JD had to trade for Rodgers. Before that, you can never have too much Tebow. All moves no serious team would make. The real nitwit is the owner.
That is true to an extent, and Fields also went through something similar. Still, Sam did improve a lot in year two where things looked promising going into year 3. I think he actually led the NFL in QBR for second half or last 6 games of the season. Things were looking up after year 2 and he was possibly primed for breakthrough. But the extent to which JD fucked him in year 3 is so severe, I don't think it is possible to overstate, nor did it happen to anyone else quite that bad. I do not believe any young QB in the history of NFL had supporting cast next to him going into the 3d year, which had not only shit OL and a coach who never coached again at any level, but also 3 top weapons, that combined for 300 total yards for the rest of their careers since. I mean let that sink in. That's top 3 weapons (WR1, TE1, RB1), others were even worse. So yes, all young QBs who are forced to start right away have a tough job, but this was just beyond anyone's imagination and a historical fuck-up that I don't think has ever been witnessed to quite the same extent what JD made Sam go through in that 3d year.
