Seemed like Douglas didn’t work hard enough. Professional scouting was very weak. That is born out of connections and hard work I remember we had like 8 cuts claimed one year. That’s a sign of not getting on the phone enough. another good example of that was how often teams would trade 1 spot ahead of us in the draft and take our guy. Lots of debate about the Zach Wilson draft and people wishing he traded down. I bet you he didn’t even know the 49ers were looking to trade up!! — Saleh at times gave off the feeling that he didn’t work hard enough either but I know he has like 12 kids or something crazy so it made a little sense
he is not the first or last gm to whiff on a qb but he is certainly the first to keep doubling down on him when everyone else saw the writing on the wall, Mike white was clearly playing better than him at a certain point and he kept letting the bozo start, than he tripled down the year ar got injured and let him be the backup when there were a lot of better options, he did the same shit with nick folk last year when he was costing us games. Look at San Fran they whiffed on tray lance(same draft) but didn’t keep letting him start they moved on quick and found their qb, because of Joe Douglas 6 years and counting we still didn’t find our qb
I do not believe Douglas was responsible for hiring Rodgers and, as much as I hated the draft selection of Wilson, there were plenty of people from NFL insiders to TGG insiders who loved it. I don't think he's locked out of any position in perpetuity.
The crazy thing is that JD had a pretty good young QB on the roster already. But he gave him Perriman as WR1, no TE, no OL, and didn't give him a chance. For some of the good moves that he made, to miss so badly on critical positions, even when he may have already had one in hand... I am now actually rethinking whether all things considered he may be Izdik level after all. The record certainly speaks for it.
While they were clearly BOTH terrible, Idzik and Douglas both had a shot at at least one talent laden draft (doesn't always happen)... JD at least walked away with a few good players.
In hindsight not trading down for a bonanza of draft picks was his biggest mistake….I never understood the rush to jettison Darnold. They threw him into a dumpster fire and only gave him 3 years including the COVID season. No help … Had the Jets built around him it could have been a lot different. I don’t recall Darnold losing the game the way Zach did. I bet 2022 would of been a lot different …
I wanted us to keep Darnold and move down a couple spots to take Patrick Surtain between 5-8 that year.
I have no love for JD, but I wonder how much of that came from an order from a weenie above? Speaking of Mike F'n White.... released by the Bills. Maybe time to bring the people's choice back home as QB3?
I think Saleh worked hard, he was just thoroughly unqualified for the role. He seemed in over his head immediately. Classic "good coordinator/bad head coach" guy. He was overwhelmed and drowning immediately and was never able to keep his head above water during his entire tenure. I've had jobs I wasn't qualified for in the past and that's how I felt. I knew I wasn't good at them, but the pay was good so I stuck it out. It isn't fun doing something you know you're inept at though.
Hope Glenn is different but granted Woody Johnson was involved in the hiring process highly unlikely.
The jumping chest bumps on the sideline with players on the 49ers after a sack was an immediate turn off for me when hiring an organizational general. It felt like watching a colleague high fiving his buddy after a good sale, not a CEO. I also think the whole Saleh/Rodgers marriage was just a bad idea in general too. They should’ve brought in a seasoned coach (like John Fox with Peyton in Denver) when the decided they were going to pursue a vet coach.
Agreed on the coaching…which is why AR had to go as soon as they hired AG for HC…pairing a future HOF vet with a young/rookie HC most likely can’t work…the QB has more credibility than the coach, especially when the QB is AR, who has a huge ego. It’s his way or nothing.
Yes and not to mention all the future first rounders they would of had plus throwing the Adams trade in. The 2022 Jets would have ended the streak and gotten into the playoffs. Darnold - even if not in the top ten QBs stat wise - was smart enough not to lose games. With that defense the Jets could have gone pretty far I think.
Maybe a bit of revisionist history gonna on round here. If memory serves, everyone was so over Darnold and wanted to "reset" the QB on a rookie deal bit with #2 overall pick. Again, if memory serves
Not even hindsight, anyone with foresight at that time knew taking the SF offer was the right move. That would have completely changed the trajectory of the team for the better. Moron had to “hear the ball come off his hand” and then he was convinced Zach was the one. We have endured the worst 3 consecutive GM’s in the history of sports.
I am sure Woody the meddler had alot to do with drafting Zach just as he had alot to do with Ar, but ya woody the meddler sure knows how to hire the wrong people. I mean if he just threw darts at a board he would of hired more competent gm's/coaches, thats why do not buy into all the Aaron Glenn/Mougey hype until they prove otherwise, it will likely result in the same result.
I think the guy was a grade A phoney. He says what the person on front of him wants to hear. The mathematician comment showed how little he cared about accountability if the team's play wasn't enough. I have bigger problems with guys like that then guys who are just bad or socially awkward like Gase... because Saleh, and phonies in general, are usually bad at what they do.
Saleh was basically a cheerleader….jumping around on the sidelines… I found his firing to be a little oddly-timed also. They were 2-3 but going into a huge MNF game vs Buffalo. Kind of a strange time to switch…I think something was going on behind the scenes.
