Fantastic summation and I agree with every point! Literally... Let's not sleep on Nick Folk, either. This team lost, what, 3...4 games by a missed kick? Win 3 of those and now we're talking possible wild card. At least in the discussion. I like what was done here and essentially hope Folk doesn't get hurt. The alternatives aren't good.
He didn’t only choose to 1 wrong qb he whiffed on every qb, the most important position there is, he chose to trade darnold and not get a haul of picks for the no 2 pick in the draft and chose Zack Wilson who many of the scouts were very skeptical on for obvious reasons, than traded a haul for a prima dona in Aaron Rodgers who was old and washed when no team offered Green Bay anything for, put us in cap nightmare to get him And brought all his buddy’s in to appease him, including a brainless moron named Hackett who couldn’t call the right play for the life of him, not to mention a draft pick he just wasted on Jordan Travis who clearly was medically not able to play, not to mention the Hassan reddick nightmare who might be the worse one of all
I think he was just nervous as hell in front of the media. First time probably. I have forgotten many of names under those circumstances. He did seem knowledgeable on the players key strengths and specific play recall.
The acquisition of Zach Wilson and Aaron Rogers and the associated lost opportunity costs accounting for a dozen or so wins over the last three seasons should be stapled to Douglas’ forehead for all time. He will never get another GM job.
Don't forget letting Bryce huff and Jfm go for nothing only to trade draft picks for Hassan, thats gotta be up there in his dumb decisions.
The Hassan signing was pretty bad. Letting those guys walk doesn’t curdle a lot of milk in my fridge. They’re not exactly setting the world on fire.
JFM was pretty good last year for the leagues best defense. Huff has been relatively useless in Philly. Keeping those two would’ve been the right move though. They were both good here in our scheme and rotation. But I don’t completely disagree with what you’re getting at. We didn’t let JJ Watt walk.
I respectfully disagree. Zach Wilson was really the "Jenga" piece that toppled the whole empire. Other than that one mistake, which I attribute more to Saleh than Douglas, he had drafted a pretty good team that couldn't overcome the QB ineptitude. Douglas had to do something to get a decent QB under center or risk losing all the good pieces he drafted. When the Rodgers opportunity knocked, he (or maybe it was Woody) jumped on it. In all fairness, I never thought much would come of Rodgers first year here, although I didn't think it would be as bad as it turned out. It's very hard for an offense to retool for a new QB, even one as skilled as Rodgers. I figured we would see something in Rodgers' second year. Unfortunately, Rodgers' second year was really his first. I think if they had let him stay one more year, something positive might have happened, but I guess Woody got fed up.
Going all in on Rodgers and bringing hackettt in to make him happy along with Lazard and others toppled the regime just as much, point is Joe D missed on the most important position in the draft and tried to cover him up with A washed up 40 year old and brought in a offensive coordinator who is not qualified to call plays in a pee wee league because he was the washed up quarterbacks buddy.
I’d have been more than happy to take my chances with Sam Darnold and all the picks we should’ve gotten for the number 2 we pissed away on Zach plus the gifts we sent the Packers way for a washed up asshole nobody else had any interest in.
Not a good sign if you ask me Maybe reading too much into it but honestly if this is your job, you should know this shit. You should be living it day in day out. That is a red flag to me
Dude! I’ve said many times over…if the Jets had just drafted according to the consensus on this board, we’d be a MUCH better team. None of us are professionals here but man we love the stuff, many do a lot of research, some go with gut (me!) but literally we’d be better.
What about not able to build OL for 5 years? Bringing in Rodgers and relying on washed up Duane Brown after season ending injury and without training camp to protect him? What about Perriman as WR1 for Sam? And he did not draft pretty good, he had one great draft and 4 bad ones. Maybe JD wasn't the worst GM the Jets ever had, but he was very bad. There is a reason why he had 6 losing seasons in a row.
its much easier to hit on 1st picks than later round draft picks, good teams are built on hits on 3-7 rounds. Non of the players he chose in those rounds even played. Not to mention his 1st 2 drafts the 1st rounders he chose were big busts, which started the downward spiraling of trying to cover them up by spending like free willy. The only solid move he made was fleecing seattle for Jamal Adams. Point is he had a better chance to rebuild this team than most gm's with high draft picks and alot of crap room and failed miserably.
@LAJet thinks he was nervous and I certainly hope so. But still, how embarrassing is it that a director of player personnel has to ask his boss the GM who did we draft in the second round? Now, I guess it is possible he was nervous, but then another mistake that Moore was drafted in the 5th? And then Mooge kept giving him names as if he knew he does not have a good recall. He did talk intelligently about the players, so that part I was happy with, and that is most important, but still... One more thing about that: when he got the job some people said it was like a payback of sorts to George Paton. After seeing this, it's hard not to think now that he is only at this role because of his dad. Again I hope I am reading this wrong, and he can do the job well outside of recalling names and what round who was drafted, but still, it left a bad impression. In this type of job one would think having great memory is kinda important.
That's a point no one can really deny, but GMs miss in high picks all the time. He's not the first GM to miss on a top 2 pick and won't be the last. His 2 biggest problems were: 1. Pretty much all his mid roster moves backfired. He signed a vet to fill a gap, they would be terrible. He wouldn't sign a position and go young, they were terrible. Almost all his mid/late picks were terrible. You'd think he accidentally run into one or two and he really didn't, except for Sherwood. 2. By a mile, his worse move was not having a backup behind Rodgers that was not zach wilson. And then he doubled down and never signed a respectable one for 16 weeks while we had just awful qb play. He went into a season with a 40ish yr old QB and his backup was one of the worst starters in the league for 2 yrs prior. That was just a fireable offense beyond compare. I'm skipping last year and moves like trading for Adams. He was clearly desperate. Saleh was also just a terrible head coach and he didn't have the balls to fire him.
You can add a few more smart moves to that list - trusting Becton after he missed a year with an injury to come back and be healthy and had no viable backup plan - staying with Zuerlein all year when for whatever reason, he fell right off a cliff…that itself cost us a couple games - counting on aging Duane Brown for too long - letting Huff, who was very productive for us, go for nothing, compounded by making a trade for Reddick when Reddick was already holding out and not signing him to a contract before the trade, or at least making the trade comp conditional on Reddick actually, you know, showing up
I was trying to keep it small but you are right. The Brown thing goes directly to point 1. He tried nothing but mid tier roster moves to patch the Oline that had a few high picks. They all failed.
