Fields got $40 mil in the same year where some average guard from the 49ers got $77 mil its a cheap lottery ticket on Fields and you don't plan your future on hitting the lottery. If they like a rookie QB they will take him, it doesnt matter which round
Dumb logic Look at the Buffalo Bills. They didn't know their asses from a whole in the ground. Sean McDermott and Brian Daboll didn't develop a single QB before or even after Josh Allen. Think that organization regrets throwing away the picks they did on him? its a players league
I wouldn’t say they’re valuing cap space anymore than the next team. They simply don’t have it to piss away and they have 3-4 big time players to lay in the next year.
Who? Breece is gone, Garrett is not big time and neither is Sauce. Hell, neither is Quinnen after last season. They’re nice pieces, but we can improve on every one.
While ownership may remain the same there is absolutely NOTHING on the football side of the organization in any way related to the past. Why not hold your breath and see what develops, at least until front office and coaches get together and introduce themselves to the players?
Agree. Add to it we’re talking about Fields. Love him or not this is his third team. Steelers let him leave without a viable substitute you can add Alex smith/ mahomes to your story
I look at it this way The Fields signing in no way prevents us from drafting a QB at 7…the salary is low for a starting caliber QB, and it’s short term. It reflects exactly what we think of him…a bridge QB with a chance to maybe become something more long term. Whether some feel that chance is a good chance or a very slim chance, either way it’s not impossible. However, I think there are a lot of needs on this team, and I think that none of the available QBs at 7 are really all that highly rated, so I see this signing more as a reflection of the relatively low opinion on QBs in this draft more so than a strong belief in Fields. Sure it’s possible we draft one if they believe in one, but I’m not sure they are sold enough on Dart or Sanders to use the 7 overall on either guy. It’s actually a pretty good move by Mouge and AG…not a lot of great options this year for a team looking for a QB…we tried the Rodgers route and that flamed out spectacularly. Not a lot of highly rated draftable QBs. So they covered their bases. They signed Fields cheap as a bridge with potential…if he somehow miraculously “gets it”, we are good. If he doesn’t, we didn’t pay too much and we can go get a QB from next year’s draft pool which by all accounts will be much better rated than this year’s pool. I think we made probably the best of a pretty bad situation all things considered. But this is a strange draft seems like. The feeling is that there is a decently high floor on talent for the first couple of rounds, so decent depth, but not a lot of high end blue chip talent for the top of the draft. So it will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
Dumb is basically leaning back into the same flawed savior logic you couldn't/wouldn't see last year with the Rodgers situation until it finally slapped you in the face with what was always the most predictable outcome on the table. Dumb is also applying a very simplified down "we just need to draft the next Josh Allen" as a counter example there. Any QB we likely take a potential flyer on, who again and outside the dream big on the NFL virgin obsession stuff arguably won't actually be a more talented QB then a still young Justin Fields is now, is probably going to sit all year. A year where the most likely outcome of this 2025 rebuild is going to see our Jets be a team with one of the worst records in the NFL. Which in turn essentially guarantees every one of you will end up making these same arguments next year about what will then the much higher regarded shiny toy we'll be in prime position for in 2026's much higher regarded QB class. When that happens you are going to come back, acknowledge all the receipts left in this thread, and admit *YOU* cheered on what ended up being a regretful waste pick, right? Right?
okay lol keep "receipts" if you want. I think I'll be okay. Aren't you the guy who claimed the Jets were going to keep Nathaniel Hackett on this staff anyway? I dont think you should be a keeping receipts type Josh Allen aint the only example. Plenty of teams draft a QB and immediately their fortunes are changed. Its a dumb move to sit out from that fun, aka winning, cause you have an unproven staff
Agree completely. Absolute worst ways to screw up the future is by continuing to re-live with the wows of the past. New regime, new philosophy, new day. Time for change.
whatever the jets do i beg of them NOT TO DRAFT sanders. anything. shit ill take another roger vick pick before i would be happy with sanders. the check down master.
One thing mildly encouraging is that the new regime is attempting to stockpile compensatory picks in the next year's draft. Douglas and McMoron were not known for securing comp picks choosing instead to reach for worthless vets like CJ Uzomah, Trumaine Johnson, etc.
this is a fantastic article NFL scouting is broken. Colorado’s Shedeur Sanders is all the proof you need | NFL | The Guardian Some excerpts "If scouts could set Shedeur’s luxury accessories to the side for a moment, they might appreciate him for what he truly is – maybe the best-nurtured NFL quarterback prospect ever. The youngest Sanders son has been at his father’s knee and all that entails from the beginning, youth football, high school and college. This has given Shedeur access to some of the brightest minds in the game. Tom Brady has been mentoring Shedeur his entire college career, and former NFL coach Pat Shurmur was his offensive coordinator at Colorado" Additionally, Shedeur made headlines at the NFL combine for his 3.9 GPA. Shedeur never caused trouble off campus, never ran into trouble farther afield." "The main hang-up scouts seem to have with Shedeur is that he veers from the Black quarterback archetype. Unlike Ward, he doesn’t wow with arm strength and foot speed. He stands in the pocket and delivers a catchable ball time and again. If scouts were honest in their appraisals of Shedeur, they’d be comparing him favorably with Peyton Manning. In two-minute drill situations alone, Shedeur has a career 92.3 passer rating against top-level opponents – the highest-ever mark recorded by Pro Football Focus."
The underlying political tones it's author is clearly trying to push in there are bad enough on their own, but it completely lost me at suggesting we should be making a favorable comp to Payton Manning. Nice attempt to try and use story to downplay the actual substance that matters here though. The fact Sanders isn't a rush threat, has a tendency to hold on to the ball too long, and doesn't wow anybody with his arm aren't just brush over points there. That stuff matters a whole lot more then some probable "qb wins > all" evaluation guy liking and wanting to push the back story here. Sanders by any rational account is one of those QB prospect types that likely needs to land in a very supportive spot to end up being successful in the NFL. With a floor that likely ends up being really really low on a bottom tier team like Jets/Giants/ect who consistently struggle to create even average NFL offense production out of their guys. If you are looking for your Josh Allen "it's a player's league" savior at QB he 100% will disappoint.
political tones? WTF Peyton Manning, the prospect, was also the son of an NFL player whose development was similar to Sanders. Thats the point of that comparison.
Yeah, political tones. I mean the article might as well went all the way with it there and just stated a belief we'd be viewing a white skinned Sanders as the next potential Payton Manning. This is worse then the typical hype machine bs we get this time of year imo. Which I'll again point out doesn't even stop and take a minute to ponder whether if any of these "we just need a hit" savior babies is even better then the QB we already have now. Other then Cam Ward i think a decent argument can be made that a 26yo Justin Fields is a better overall QB talent then any other QB available in this draft. He's just not an NFL virgin and the pie in the sky dream kids really love their virgins. The team that can't gets Fields to work isn't going to be the one that realistically does any better with one of these dart throw guys imo.
