Jayden Daniels didn’t win 70% of his college games either. so 3 MVPs and the Rookie Of the Year all fell short of that baseline
What a dumb marker to throw out. Stetson Bennett, Blake Sims and Jake Coker all won that percentage of games though.
Like I said a BASELINE! Now, go tell me how many QB's have been drafted, in total, since the oldest of those three was drafted and get back to me. You are listing the EXCEPTIONS and NOT the RULE! Just killin' me over here! Maybe I can pull Payton Manning, Andrew Luck and a couple others out my ass to make the point.
It’s an incorrect way to evaluate. Besides Shadeur Sanders was 36-14 as a college starter - 72%. So he qualifies anyway
I didn't say VALUE! Jesus Christ man. I said BASELINE! Example: Anthony Richards. Kid didn't win shit in college. And I mean shit. Top 10 draft pick because he could throw a football out of the building and jump through the roof. My BASELINE is, "Did Anthony Richardson WIN football games in college?" The answer is no. Now, there could be other compelling reasons. Coaching changes, program losing scholarships...on and on and on. If your baseline value, in a QB, isn't "has he won" then what the hell are we talking about here? If the kid didn't WIN in high school he's not going to get a look by colleges. If he didn't WIN in college then, if I'm an NFL guy, I start there and work my way up. Is it REALLY all that hard? Nowhere did I say that was the ONLY thing. Fuck, if a guy CAN'T WIN in college what makes you think they can WIN in the NFL? I can count the QB's on TWO hands, in the last 30 years, who didn't win shit in school and came into the NFL and smoked everyone. Unreal...
Yeah, Shadeur Sanders is 13-13 playing for a school that counts. As far as I'm concerned, I don't want to hear about his record playing for 2nd/3rd tier schools. He was 4-8 in 2023 and 9-3 in 2024. Not exactly "lighting it up" in the win column. I'm really trying to understand what this "love" is for Sanders... Can someone explain it to me? If this kid's last name wasn't Sanders and his dad Deion, we wouldn't be HAVING this discussion. If he was Joe Smith with a Colorado record of 13 and 13 he wouldn't be listed as draftable. Probably a post draft signing.
I mean your post/point was still dumb and you can post these rage fits about how you’re right all you want. It was still a moronic thought that you keep doubling down on. Mahomes’s record in college was 13-15 as a starter. 46.43% Jake Fromm’s record in college was 36-7 as a starter. 83.7%
A "coach's kid" that revived and turned around 2 football programs on life support would catch anyone's eye. Especially since he did it setting all-time records for completion percentage. But his dad is Neon Deion, a lightning rod of a man, so it actually hurts him more than it helps him
Every single time I run a mock draft I see 3 players worthy of a trade up from other teams. Always a combo of Campbell/Graham/Sanders available. I just have a very strong gut feeling we are going to trade down and target TE/WR.
I’m not the football savant that many of you are but I am not excited about drafting a RT or TE at 7. Seems we should be greedier and target a higher value position. I say this being a so-called BPA guy. But Rt at 7 has a vibe like kicker in second round I have no clue whether sanders will be a good nfl qb but I am definitely highly intrigued. He doesn’t look like he’ll wilt under the spotlight. The great QBs are usually great at something they don’t have an effective stat/ measure for. Like diagnosing defenses and seeing how they will react before they do so. I’d like to think that teams probe this during interviews.
My two cents. Short of a top QB prospect, top RT, as LT and pass rusher are premier positions in today’s NFL. Now more than ever. There is nothing more important than either disrupting the QB, or conversely, protecting the QB. Look no further than the recent SB winners to see how important that is. Taking a flyer on a QB prospect on a weak class is absolutely not where you go with a top ten pick out of desperation.
My big board. If Carter or Hunter fall to 7 sprint to the podium and select them. But realistically 1. Graham 2. Campbell 3. Membou 4. Trade down 5. Warren
