Shedeur Sanders

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  1. AtlantaJet

    AtlantaJet Well-Known Member

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    I am a no. It just has the potential to blow up badly, with the combination of the NY media and his father's personality. The Giants should steer clear too. If he is on the board at 7 the Jets should try to trade out.
     
  2. NJJets

    NJJets Well-Known Member

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    He’s a great kid coming from great stock. But if he was just some other random kid I really don’t think his profile would be nearly this high.
     
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    NJJets Well-Known Member

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    Part of the burden of being an elite NFL QB is carrying his team. If he can’t carry his team, he’s not elite. If he’s not elite, he’s not a 1st round prospect.
     
  4. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    Very few can be elite from day one, some of the best QB of all time were not even first round picks.

    If he’s developed properly he has a chance.
     
  5. NJJets

    NJJets Well-Known Member

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    Well, that should be the path of Sanders because he’s not a 1st round value. He’s not elite. He might become elite, guys like Brady and Kurt Warner have obviously proven there’s a chance. But if I’m a team desperate for a QB, Sanders isn’t the guy I would want. If I have a QB that’s gonna give me a predicted solid 3 years of play, I’d consider drafting Sanders to sit behind that guy.
     
  6. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    Sheuder has a terrible arm for NFL standards.. I can't tell you how many times I've watched this kid now fail to put enough mustard on the ball. How many times he failed to get it to the right spot... Absolutely not. This kid doesn't have a first round grade in my eyes at all. Then you throw in the extra circus element that comes with the pick because of his Daddy.. hell to the nah nah
     
  7. SoylentGreen

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    agree, small frame, arm is so so... so would need a creative offense tailored to his strengths. Take that and the extra drama/circus risk particularly when things don't go in a positive direction (which lets face it, IS the way of the Jets). It all adds up to something not worth risking. Dart looks more like an NFL Qb honestly + would not surprise me if he goes before Sanders.
     
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  8. Rockinz

    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    The arm talent is not first round worthy bottom line. He has been in the spotlight for his whole life and could handle the NY circus. My comp for him is Brock Purdy in terms of talent.
     
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  9. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I haven’t read or heard many if any analysis that questioned his arm. Other things but not his arm strength. One report I read said he might struggle with certain tight window throws he got away with in college but that’s true of all prospects making the jump.

    But if you do think that, go back and look at virtually every pre-draft profile of Joe Burrow. They all questioned his arm.

    https://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2020jburrow.php
    https://www.nfl.com/prospects/joe-burrow/32004255-5267-9731-81c8-48673dcec5e2
    https://bleacherreport.com/articles...0-scouting-report-for-cincinnati-bengals-pick
    https://www.profootballnetwork.com/joe-burrows-nfl-draft-profile-and-a-habit-for-the-hyperbolic/
     
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  10. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I'd take that. Brock Purdy is excellent
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I think the best part about Sanders is that he's always got his head downfield.

    "Elite" gets thrown around too much but if theres an elite trait it's his ability to feel the rush, without looking at it, and not be affected by it. If Zach Wilson had that, he'd be an all pro
     
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    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    He plays exactly like Burrow in that since which is why I brought him up on my last post. He’s nowhere near the prospect Burrow was given the final year he had and utter domination but they play the same.

    Take a bunch of sacks, probably the same athletic abilities in terms of speed, running ability, etc. and right around the same type of arm.

    The NFL isn’t about throwing 50 yard bombs on a frozen rope. It’s about picking up chunk plays in the 15-20 yard range, and converting 3rd downs.
     
  13. IIMeanDeanII

    IIMeanDeanII Well-Known Member

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    That's fine.. I'm just explaining what my eyes and brain have concluded from watching him play. I just don't think he's going to pan out in the NFL. I wouldn't be surprised if he fell hard in this draft. I don't think he has a strong arm, especially for NFL standards. I just don't. Not to say his game is all bad, I like his football IQ, vision, and pocket awareness.. I just don't think he will be able to keep up in areas that you need to play QB at a high level.

    From what you've watched, you seriously don't see the lack of drive when stepping into his throws, or how often he floats the ball, to the point, his WR are bailing him out or needing to slow down just to catch the ball in stride?
    That doesn't work in the NFL.

    I could just be dumb, which is far more likely. I am being honest with what I see though.
     
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  14. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    This post is a bit of fantasy and that’s fine…because the Jets are not gambling on a rookie QB at pick 7
    Kid is not a Stroud or a J Daniel’s
    Mean Dean is right ..he will be in the Green room waiting to be picked come draft day

    Don’t get fancy: Draft an OL and build both sides of the LOS
     
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  15. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you on Purdy. Purdy is what it looks like when you have a superior mental grasp of the playbook. Has "just enough" arm for the NFL not in the North East but that kid knows what to do with a football in Shanahan's system. My god, if you could put Purdy's mind on Mac Jones body...CHAMPIONSHIP!

    As far as Sanders. I don't have him finishing out a 5yr. contract if he gets drafted to the wrong team. He is a high 3rd/low 2nd round talent, at best. If his dad wasn't Deion his name would be mid-round. Weaker arm than Purdy, since the comparison was brought up. I worry that Henry made him look better than he actually was. If Sanders was all world and you had a weapon like Henry, then they should have been in the National Championship hunt.
     
  16. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    I think you mean Hunter not Henry. While he is quite the player, they are just 2 guys. It’s quite a lot to ask of them to go to Colorado, possibly the worst P5 team in the nation when they got there, to a national title. They did pretty well considering that

    obviously Colorado didn’t have the linemen of the SEC teams

    I don’t see Shadeur being a bust. I’m not saying HOF or anything crazy but I think he will be a solid top 10-12 (annual) QB in this league. Something like Dak Prescott or Brock Purdy, those were good comparisons
     

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