I think the Jets knew going in what the outcome would be. A 41yo Legend really willing to start over with a rookie CS? Not likely. A 41yo guy that is used to having things done HIS way now having to follow orders and buy into a new program? Not likely. It was highly unlikely Rodgers would learn new cadences and plays at this point in his career from a rookie OC or follow the direction of a rookie HC. Rodgers didn't respect Saleh inspite of the narrative he put out. Rodgers also knew things would be radically different with Glenn and probably decided he wanted out. The meeting was just a formality. The outcome was never in doubt. His body language on the sideline spoke volumes during the season.
I'm not so sure about that Cman... I don't think Rodgers leaves his cave and flies across the country for a meeting he knows is just a formality. I think he was interested in returning but the Jets decided to go a different direction. Russini's report on Glenn's stipulations were probably discussed and may have surprised Rodgers as he was used to doing whatever he wants with Saleh/Ulbrich/Douglas.
It's a fair take that may be true, but obviously we don't know exactly what went down and how each side was thinking. It could be possible that each side had their stipulations for what was and was not negotiable for a reunion and they just weren't met. For example, if Rodgers agreed to end his McAfee appearances, attend all mini-camps, work within the new OC's system, take a paycut, and potentially mentor a young QB, I have to imagine Glenn and Mougey would consider a reunion. But knows. I do think Rodgers was returning was always very unlikely and believe it makes sense from both sides
I don’t think so. I think there was good faith on both sides, but there is new leadership and new rules. We conveyed those rules and gave Rodgers the opportunity to decide if he wants to follow them. Clearly he doesn’t want to, most likely drawing the line on the McAfee show appearances because he’s paid well for them.
I think it’s somewhere in the middle. The Jets knew Rodgers wasn’t going to be OK with the rules they laid out. They still gave him the option to accept them because obviously he’s a valued talent if he were to want to actually play ball and be a good teammate. The unfortunate part is that I think Rodgers on a team that has a built culture and infrastructure can still get a team to the playoffs. The Jets set an absolutely horrible precedent by seemingly getting Hackett & Lazard to entice him, and then bringing in Randall Cobb (while giving him significant playing time early in too), Boyle, signing Malik Taylor to the practice squad, etc. They didn’t even need to set that fucking precedent. The only other team early on with rumored interest was the Titans and they immediately said they’re not interested. The Packers were up shits creek and the Jets were the only option. We could’ve brought all Rodgers most hated enemies here and it would’ve been his only choice really to play football.
Bringing in Rodgers buddies to the team hurt the team badly. I wonder if he would have come to the team without Hackett and company. He said that retirement was an option.
My personal opinion, with no way to prove it now, is that the whole Aaron Rodgers thing very well could have worked out well for the Jets, maybe even really well, but for the torn achilles immediately in his first game. That was just such a disaster, in so many ways. It is very hard to even quantify how much of a disaster that was. Aaron Glenn likely doesn't even have this job right now if it that didn't happen so maybe that'll end up being the silver lining if he goes on to be a successful Jets head coach.
I feel like the achilles injury saved us from an even worse 2023 season. The beating that Rodgers would have taken behind the 2023 line would make what he went through in the early part of this year look easy by comparison. And we kind of got a preview, albeit a short one, of how it would have looked anyway. On half of the plays that he did play in that game against Buffalo, he was running for his life. It would have been that all season. It also gave us a chance to move on from Wilson, who might still be here if Rodgers hadn't gone down.
I think there was a very slim chance that Rodgers would stay, and that slim chance rested on the notion that Rodgers would place his ego on a shelf and commit fully to the team, which I really don't think he did the whole time he was with the Jets. Of course, we know that Aaron Rodgers Ego calls all of the shots, and will never be found on a shelf. He wants to be worshipped. That was almost certainly the driving force in his political situation last year.
The reason Rodgers' friends from Green Bay were brought in was so that they could teach the rest of the team the offense. And Rodgers essentially paid for Cobb and Boyle himself. These were smart signings (except for Hackett), not horrible problems. The horrible problem was that Rodgers got hurt three minutes into the season.
They did a great job of teaching the rest of the offense, didn't they? They taught the rest of the offense that only Rodgers' buddies get the ball regularly.
I don't know. They still had bad coaching and a terrible o-line. On the other hand, in 2023, the d-line was strong and then JD gave it away.
I don't care if Rodgers comes back or not, anyway you slice it up, it's going to be another, long and painful Jets season.
smart signings? Are you fucking nuts? Randall Cobb had 5 catches the entire season and Tim Boyle was atrocious You gotta be joking around with people at this point
The problem with Rodgers is he’s like a poorly trained dog going on a walk, running toward every “squirrel” that popped up. “Yes I’m 100% committed to playing and winning a Su… oooh look VP nomination!! Wait wait I mean I’m truly committe….. ooooh look Egypt!! No no really, I’m dedicated to the tea… ooooh hang on gotta do my McAfee bit…. Where was I, yes championships and commitme…… ooooh look my self made documentary is filming…”. Total commitment. <rolls eyes>