I wish we had a frame of reference for how often this happens on other teams both good and bad. I think it happens more often than not. All he did was post a thumbs down. I don’t think it’s a big deal really.
It was a bit more than just a thumbs down JV. He posted a rather snarky "I guess its another rebuild for me" before he took it down. Should have just left it as a thumbs down and been done. Glenn is gonna have to have a talk with QW and explain its not acceptable OR lose whatever credibility he has built so far.
Agreed. I view DT like a RB, unless it’s win now it’s a hard position to spend premium pick on. Q has been great but ugh. Come on.
I'm not sure that he's built up any so far. The only way he can get any credibility with anyone at this point is to win games. The time for simple talk leading to anything with this franchise has long since sailed. He needs to act. If players have a problem with being here, then send them to Jacksonville, Tennessee, Dallas, or the Giants. They could, however, put the roster on notice by shipping out some of the whining that has been coming from supposed "star" players on this team.
Yeah they could, but that actually made me chuckle a bit…my gut reaction was that the players would actually say YES! I’m outta this clown show!!! Not sure it would put anyone on notice…more like give them what they want… Why any player would want to stay with this shitshow of a losing franchise is beyond me…I’d think they’d be dancing on the way out Anyway…that was my guy!
That's why they should ship them off to other floundering franchises like the Titans, Cowboys, Giants, Jaguars, etc. I seriously doubt that GW will be the 5th most targeted WR playing on one of those teams.
Fair enough. I didn’t see all that. I wouldn’t mind shipping him out. He’s at the cliff of a decline in effectiveness. The problem is his brother is also a very important player to us at the moment.
He had the second highest pressure rate of all DTs this year when he wasn’t double teamed. How is that overrated unless you’re expecting him to be Aaron Donald ?
For the money he was paid yes, I’m expecting him to be Aaron Donald. A DT is never worth their 2nd contract. We suffer this lesson time and again. A DT is one of the most physically stressed positions in the league. These guys never live up to huge contracts, and they hinder a rebuilding team.
Mo Wilkerson, Sheldon Richardson, Leonard Williams, Quinnen Williams, Vita Vea, Sheldon Rankins.. Let them go, optimally trade them once they’re nearing the end of their rookie contract, and keep drafting replacements.
While they are impactful, they are run stuffers first imo. THe goods ones wreck the line but they are roated often and can easily be doubled if the rest of the line stinks. Edge rushers are the premium.
It feels to me that for every first round “stud” DT that’s drafted there’s 10 others in FA and lower rounds that produce at a relative level. To me the difference between Quinnen Williams and say Jonathan Franklin Meyers isn’t worth tens of millions of dollars a year.
DL a premium position in this league, Idk why people race to make stupid comments about the value of the position just because they didn't like what Williams said on twitter (which was also stupid). Chiefs have Chris Jones and Eagles have Jalen Carter. Both of those guys are total beasts and the top reason their teams were so good and made it so far this year
Jet, this is exactly why RS was fired... this band of players, has never been heald accountable. Glenn, will, as Cman said, take them to the wood shed and give them a dose of reality, i.e., the train is leaving the station either get on or good-bye.
Jalen Carter, on his first contract. Chris Jones, given his big payday by his original team because they’re already SB contenders. I’m not saying DT is not a valuable position, I’m saying we shouldn’t be investing a big contract to the position unless it’s a final or near final piece to the overall team. I’m also saying that while DT is valuable, it is not a position to build around. For example, we drafted Q in 2019, a year after drafting Darnold in which his best weapon was Robbie Anderson (soon to be replaced by Breshad Perriman) and his OL was pretty putrid. Quinnen didn’t win games for us. Quinnen didn’t help our dismal offense. Quinnen has done nothing to the overall effort of winning meaningful games. Trading down and amassing picks to help the offense would have been the right move. In 2015 when we drafted Leonard Williams, we had just signed Ryan Fitzpatrick to be our QB. What does a great DT do for us when you know your QB is nothing more than a bridge at best (granted Fitz had a career year for himself) and we still had so many holes on offense? A quality DT is a backend piece, not something to build around.
That which is true with the Jets is not necessarily true for most other teams. The Jets have proven that they are the exception when it comes to failing at most everything, so when you name 4 Jets and a couple of outliers from other teams (one of whom played his second contract with the Jets), I don't see that as much support for your blanket statement.
