Ok, several players unhappy re Rodgers and some will be aging out when the Jets might expect to be good again. If you talked to the players and they said they want out, what do you think the value of the following are? Separate deals and picks in 2025 or 2026. Lets ball park that the teams wanting them are in a more win now type mode and therefore ballpark a pick in a round at say 25ish if you don't have a specific team in mind. 1)Q 2) Wilson 3) Sauce 4) Hall
Get me firsts and I'll trade them all away. Noone currently on this team is even close to being a leader. I think they are all going to search for a change of scenery in FA..let's get ahead of it and draft to get players who want to be here and succeed
Q ... maybe we can get a first for him. Perhaps the best interior DL in the NFL. The problem is that teams can usually patch interior DL together with other players so they may not necessarily see the value. Sauce ... here I feel more positive. I think elite young CBs are a real valuable commodity. But I would not trade him. I think that the same thing applies to us - he's really good and we would struggle to get another CB of that level. Breece ... we'll get a third at best. Yes he's young, but running backs have no secondary trade market. Last year both Saquon and Derrick Henry changed teams for no compensation. Why give up a first for Breece Hall when you can just wait for somebody 80% as good to become available for nothing. Wilson ... no shot at a first. Mainly because of the surrounding scenario. How valuable could he be really when the Jets went through a litany of receivers at the other spot? I just think the story isn't there to drum up the market for a first round pick.
If Glenn has a sense that anybody on the team are going to be "culture" or fit issues, I'd trust them to move anybody they see fit. However, I'm curious how all of these guys would look with a stronger head coach and culture.
Q is interesting if he wants out. He is 28 and I don't see us as Super Bowl contenders without a QB at present. He has 3 years left on his contract at 21.5,26.6 and 30.4. A team trading for him gets about 5 per year less on their cap as we absorb signing bonus. Our dead hit would be 14.5 with a savings of 6.9. A true SB contender might see him as a final piece and give that later first and maybe something next year. Sauce and Wilson obviously have more value as they are younger and would only cost a new team about 1.1 in 2025 though both would want extensions. Think each could net a first plus. Obviously huge holes to know what our new leaderships' vision was as told during the interview process behind closed doors. Hall has the least value just due to position and not coming of a great year. Move only in a tear down or if he is a problem which I don't think he has a history of being. Late 3 or 4 ? Maybe some pick swaps as well
Parcells always made an example of a beloved veteran from the prior team. Hugh Douglas was treated like a bitch and unceremoniously dumped when Parcells came in. It has been a theme for many of his “disciples” as well. I think if Glenn takes the same tact, Quinnen will be the target. He should net decent compensation.
This team can't always "dump everyone"... you need talent to field a team I think Sauce will bring the most in ROI.... Garrett needs to be kept. Hall, hard to say. not sure the return would be worth shipping him out unless he's being a PIA. Only contender teams will trade value for Q's contract (Id rather keep him anyway)
I dont think you do anything with Quinnen Williams, he just signed a long extension, you just tell him when practice starts and thats that
SG stated he met with CS and is happy,,, as for Q, I haven't ready anything that stated he wanted out jut frustrated and Wilson must be dancing in the streets now that AR is gone... so I am thinking this is alot of noise...
You guys are delusional if you think a new head coach (former defensive coordinator) is coming in and dumping his best DT (and his brother LB) and CB in order to rebuild.
His mentor, Bill Parcells, came in here and treated our best defender (Hugh Douglas) like a piece of garbage and shipped him out. It’s not out of the realm, Quinnen has not helped us win anything, he’s whining and popping off on social media, he’s extremely overpaid, and he has decent value in a trade. I’m not guaranteeing it, but I could easily see us trading him away. Even more so with Quincy here. Sometimes leadership has to be cold.
Yeah. Moving top young talent is not how you rebuild. Those are the guys you keep. The ones you ship off or let go are the aging veterans without a future (Rodgers, Adams, Moses, Tyron, DJ Reed, Lazard, Reddick, Mosley).
and it wouldn't surprise me if Glenn and Mougie (SP?) does exactly that. All of those names represent the prior regime's efforts. We could garner quite a few DP's for all of them.
Glenn reminds of Josh McDaniel's in Denver. Going to kick everyone out and run the team further into the ground. Multiple players unhappy off the start. Good job Glenn.
Yep but Glenn will probably kick them all out next like he did Rodgers. Jermaine Johnson is also on the list of players unhappy. All the best players are upset at Glenn. What a disgraceful start.
They should be mad at Woody Johnson not the guy that’s coming in to change things since the prior way wasn’t working with the lame duck coach saying stuff like all gas no brakes or whatever
The players should be mad. They should be pissed off in fact, they went 5-12 this is much better than losing every week and expressing our positivity about it
