OFFICIAL: Welcome Darren Mougey as GM

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  1. WarriorRB28

    WarriorRB28 Well-Known Member

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    Does he have real authority here? He's one of the youngest GM in the league and his head coach was picked for him.

    I have to wonder.

    I hope this works out.

    Time will tell.

    Sadly I get the feeling the real GM here is Woody Johnson.
     
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  2. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    I have nothing left to say.

    If this team isn't competitive this year it will be my last as a Jets fan.
     
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  3. Borat

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    Woody is not a GM. People are being influenced way too heavily with the Athletic article citing anonymous sources, already fired or soon to be fired. Woody does not meddle any more than any other owner. Yeah, after 5 years of failure instead of firing JD he intervened, which was not smart as he should have fired him before this year. But JD got his chance and he had more than enough rope. He just failed for 5 years and then Woody became unhinged. But Mooge will get his chance. What he does with it is up to him and Glenn.
     
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  4. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    He’s young but I’m a bit discouraged because he’s not handsome like Sean McVay.
     
  5. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    It’s not true. We are still here after 2023 and 2024. We are never leaving.

    I wanted to, but I am still here. Maybe I don’t care as much or have near the optimism that I used to, but I will always be a Jets fan. It’s possibly a curse. We can’t rule that out.
     
  6. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

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    You know, two things, I WISH I believed in curses. It would be so easy to discount everything to something so simple. lol Curses don't exist. All that's left is ineptitude. THAT the Jets have in abundance.

    No, I've made a couple of decisions over the course of the last year and my happiness is at the top of the list. At my current age I am only doing those things that make me happy. The Jets haven't made me happy in over a decade. I think that's long enough. Hell, they haven't even made me grin. Simply untenable at this point. Sadly, we all know the Johnson's are never going to sell this team and their "leadership" shows no sign of improving. So, I'm going to give Aaron Glenn ONE year. In this era of supposed "equity" a team is supposed to be able to go from worst to first. LOTS of teams have done it. This one can too. I don't need to see a Super Bowl but they MUST make the playoffs or I walk. Sick of wasting energy on an organization that simply can't get out of their own way. Ce La Vie... ONE year.
     
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  7. Borat

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    He is taller though, so there may be some hope.
     
  8. REVISion

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    I think he's right, Woody clearly has a type.

    Woody's actions are best understood by realizing he hasn't learned anything new about football in at least 15 years. He knows we last had success under Rex and he's been trying to hire Rex 2.0 ever since. Woody thinks a running game and defense is how you win and it's impossible to convince him otherwise no matter how much evidence there is.

    Woody is a potent combination of ignorant and arrogant. He "knows" how to win football games in his mind, he just hasn't hired the right guy within his predetermined mold for what a HC "should" be.

    This, in a nutshell, is why we're screwed. Woody doesn't realize that we've failed not because he's hired the wrong people (though he has), but because we're playing the wrong game entirely. Brick will honestly be an improvement purely because he's still in the learning phase of his life whereas Woody left that phase decades ago.
     
  9. letsgojets2819

    letsgojets2819 Well-Known Member

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    Jets keep doing the same exact shit ever since Woody bought the team(25 years now), and people keep expecting different results. This is now the 9th coach and 6th different gm Woody has hired and all the previous ones have been absolute trash.
     
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  10. HackettSuxTNG

    HackettSuxTNG Well-Known Member

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    Great! Another senior executive that will require on the job training!

    This franchise is a complete joke.
     
  11. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    IF thats what he thinks then it's not a bad thing. Philly Eagles have the no. 1 defense and no. 2 running game.
     
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    It's interesting you brought them up, because Philly is the exact model I wanted to follow. This is a team that is winning and going to SBs because of their GM - Roseman. They have easily the best roster in NFL, but not necessarily an elite QB. That is why I wanted to get a GM who spent over a decade with Roseman hoping he could have learned form Howie and do it here. And if we do get an elite QB at some point, that would be a huge bonus.

    Another thing that Roseman does: always hires offensive HC. It's just more important in today's game and much easier to find a good DC. It's just too bad Woody is too dumb to understand that as this is the complete opposite of what Woody has always done to the point where he has not even interviewed a single legitimate offensive candidate. Now, it is still possible to win consistently with defensive HC, but you need to get an elite QB. Otherwise any success will be temporary as we are going to lose our OC as soon as we succeed like TB Bucks for instance or Detroit.
     
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    Saquon’s great but the Eagles offensive line and more importantly the depth of the offensive line is what keeps them in the hunt for the Super Bowl every year. I would be ecstatic if we went tackle and guard with our first two picks.
     
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    We need to find OL depth later in the draft too. No more wasting ALL mid round picks like with JD. Mooge does have good draft reputation, hopefully we will see the difference.
     
  15. Borat

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    Just listened to Tanny interview, and some parts are pretty revealing. basically it feels like Tanny has the same philosophy. But keep me honest, it is a bit long, but whoever wants to listen: https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/ESP1944653721?selected=ESP9084711945 . That's the track that says Glenn and Mougey.
    Also, summary from Dick Chimney: https://x.com/RichCimini/status/1883597476600697280

    Essentially Tanny said they did analytics of last 30 years of hiring, and he felt he didn't have to go offense, it was more about leadership. Now, that by itself is not bad, but then he added examples of Parcells and Belichick and mentioned that they found Andy Reid was more of an anomaly. I just felt like he went too far back to study data. I mean you can do that too, but you also have to take shorter term view as well since it underlines the latest trends as the League evolves, and it evolved heavily towards offense. Based on what I heard from him, it didn't sound like he did that, otherwise he would not bring up dinosaurs like Belichick and Parcells as main examples. But the point is this philosophy aligns perfectly with Woody, which explains 0 good offensive candidates interviewed.

    Another part that was important is that Tanny felt staying in one place and experiencing different regimes, while not getting fired is a great thing. That along with Glenn ties explains why Newmark was the 1st one to get a shot. He was in Detroit for a long time and never lost his job. Now, while I agree it does take good skill to survive, and it is very important, I am not sure it trumps the fact he was still a part of losing culture for 25 years. And literally 2 good years in his long career. And btw, in Detroit he was #4 guy, behind Holmes, Agnew, and Dorsey. Only this year he finally became #2 guy (in Washington) after the hired new GM and HC already. Glad we ended up with Mooge over him.
     

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