Sell The Team Woody!

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Brook!, Sep 29, 2024.

  1. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2012
    Messages:
    14,857
    Likes Received:
    9,201
    It is not at all like Verizon, Netflix or any other business for which ownership is traded on the open market. It seems you do not understand that tee shirts and hot dogs are small parts of the revenue picture. The guy bought the team for under $700 million dollars and has an overall losing record since then while the value has increased tenfold.

    I posted the figures that show the team's value more than doubled while they won less than a third of their games - how do you then predict a value downfall for the future?
     
  2. Jets OG fan

    Jets OG fan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2022
    Messages:
    795
    Likes Received:
    782
    - Cancel your season tickets
    - Stop attending games
    - Stop watching games on TV
    - Stop buying merch

    NY Is a big market but if fans want to try to make a difference they have to work in unison, but I doubt the majority of funs would even do this.
     
  3. JETFUEL1580

    JETFUEL1580 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2022
    Messages:
    1,498
    Likes Received:
    1,286
    Nope, for most of us it runs to deep. Once training camp rolls up will be sucked right back in for more punishment.
     
    westiedog1 likes this.
  4. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    5,388
    Likes Received:
    2,058
    Right now, other than a COMPLETELY empty stadium EVERY-SINGLE-JETS-HOME-GAME, there's not much that can be done. Basically, all nationally televised games would have to end AND the local broadcast, in the NY area, would have to end for there to be any "real" monetary impact. The nationally televised games are gone. Of that you can bank on. No one is going to make that mistake again and the games can easily be flexed out. Unfortunately, ALL the games must be broadcast to the local NY audience because they are contractually bound to do so. THAT's where the money is.

    As @Ralebird pointed out, the value of these teams are wrapped up in the TV contracts as a whole for the entire NFL. As long as there are good teams and people continue to pay the cable/streaming networks, the teams, all the teams, will go up in value or at least hold their value. What separates the top from the bottom is the added tickets/merch type stuff. NY Jets are at #5 because of the size of the population of the NY Metro area. Now, if all the fans simply stopped buying all the related stuff the Jets might drop from 5 to 10...15...whatever, but the difference would be negligible in the grand scheme.

    Face it, essentially, the combined league ownership would have to FORCE Johnson to sell and that's not happening unless something like the kind of legal drama that happened down in Commander land. The fans have two options: They either live with the shit show or find another team. It's not going to get any better and there's simply not enough luck in the world for Johnson to stumble on both a GM and HC that simply overcome decades of ineptitude AND his constant meddling. Johnson's meddling will NEVER end. At least, not for the foreseeable future anyway and there's no guarantee that his kid won't be as bad if not worse than the old man! We already know Chris is a useless turd. So, buckle up people. You either pull the plug on your fandom or get used to it.

    For me, personally, I'm going to watch this upcoming offseason with an electron microscope. Depending upon how things go will determine if I go looking for a new team. I love football way too much and I'm only in my 50's. I'm not giving up the NFL and, at the same time, I won't be fed a disastrous shit show on an annual basis anymore. As I stated, I'm in my 50's now and I won't support any more colossal ineptitude.
     
  5. westiedog1

    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2014
    Messages:
    2,749
    Likes Received:
    2,919
    The problem is the impact will be minimal. On the WFAN they reported that NFL teams get only 17% of revenue from ticket sales. That's why leagues can stage their games in front of empty stands as they did during COVID, and still make money. I like the idea of fans wearing bags over their heads. I think that sends a message because the cameras always pan to the stands when the Jets have a half of futility as they did last Sunday. It also may be time to hire an airplane ---- WOODY, SELL THE TEAM!!!!!
     
  6. letsgojets2819

    letsgojets2819 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2024
    Messages:
    634
    Likes Received:
    613
    No it won't because it will hurt the Nfl's bottom line more than Woody's and the Nfl will make it miserable for Woody to be a owner and find a way for him to sell the team. The Nfl don't like losing money on one of the biggest markets in the league, on another note besides wanting Woody to sell the team, why would you wanna slave away at your job all week and than spend your whole check to take your family to a game when the team is this bad? These players and owner don't give a crap about us, so why would we want to shell out our hard earned money to see the crap they have been putting on the field for 24 straight years? If your looking for family entertainment there's better ways to spend your money.
     
    mezzavo likes this.
  7. Jets OG fan

    Jets OG fan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2022
    Messages:
    795
    Likes Received:
    782
    Yeah I think most of it comes from TV ratings and advertising. If Jets fans stopped watching the games altogether it might do something, but there will always be fans of other teams and others watching for LOLJETS moments. It would also be an awful look for the team to have near empty stands, but again, that would never happen. Many are loyal.
     
    mezzavo and westiedog1 like this.
  8. letsgojets2819

    letsgojets2819 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2024
    Messages:
    634
    Likes Received:
    613
    The Jets are 2nd in attendance this year in the Nfl besides the shit product put out, so well never know if not showing up would force Woody to sell the team because people keep showing up.
     
    mezzavo and westiedog1 like this.
  9. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Messages:
    26,807
    Likes Received:
    21,207
    I'm eagerly anticipating the next generation of leadership...

    [​IMG]
     
  10. letsgojets2819

    letsgojets2819 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2024
    Messages:
    634
    Likes Received:
    613
    He will be worse just a 3rd generation trust fund baby that never had to work a day in his life, hopefully he squanders the family fortune and sells the team.
     
    IIMeanDeanII and papapump like this.
  11. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2003
    Messages:
    52,643
    Likes Received:
    24,625
    Can't we just call him Joffrey?
     
    Jets OG fan and mezzavo like this.
  12. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2008
    Messages:
    26,807
    Likes Received:
    21,207
  13. 3lixer.

    3lixer. Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2006
    Messages:
    847
    Likes Received:
    184
    He can't be worse than Woody. I say give the kid a shot.
     
    Ralebird likes this.
  14. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    5,388
    Likes Received:
    2,058
    You know...it worked for the 49'ers, I guess. Daddy York handed off to the boy around 2010 after he shit the bed over and over. The "kid" had a rough start but he seemed to learn. 2017 he brought in Lynch/Shanhan and the rest is history. He's so far out of the spotlight I even forget the kids first name. But his dad, John York I remember.
     
  15. No Fly Zone

    No Fly Zone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2011
    Messages:
    1,636
    Likes Received:
    1,294
    You completely missed the point...I said "relative" value... absolute value is very league dependent, even the Jags are worth $6b... On a relative basis it matters. Lose fans, lose revenues, lose ticket sales, jerseys etc. You need to actually read the commentary... downfall from 6.5b to 5.9b or so means a huge drop in "relative" value.. maybe to the middle of the league. Woody's ego can't accept that... he needs to sell before he becomes a middling team for value..

    Even the Bungles team is worth $5.5b
     
  16. nyjets20

    nyjets20 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2015
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    8
    The NFL doesn’t only profit share TV rights. It’s my understanding that they profit share merchandise sales as well. So Woody might make the store profit at the stadium team store. But the Jets and Packers get the same check for Jersey sales on fanatics. They also share 34% of ticket sales. So boycotting the games doesn’t even pack the financial punch that it should.
     
    Jets OG fan and mezzavo like this.
  17. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2012
    Messages:
    14,857
    Likes Received:
    9,201
    I missed nothing - I simply disagree with you and offered figures to support my position. Past performance may be no guarantee of future results but they've been holding true for a couple of decades. It's all about geography and demographics.
     
  18. nevbeats319

    nevbeats319 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2007
    Messages:
    1,970
    Likes Received:
    676
    Not defending Woody but the Fords still own the Lions and Mcnair still owns the Texans. It comes down to the GM and that GM picking the right QB
     
    mezzavo likes this.
  19. jets_fan

    jets_fan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2016
    Messages:
    4,751
    Likes Received:
    6,560
    The families still own those teams, but both franchise have seen a different member of their respective ownership families assume the role of principal owner in the past 4-5 years.
     
    mezzavo likes this.
  20. mezzavo

    mezzavo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Messages:
    5,388
    Likes Received:
    2,058
    Let's not forget the 49'ers. The York's had a pretty bad patch there after DeBartelo was tossed out. Daddy York couldn't rub two sticks together. However, when Jed, the son, took over he eventually brought in Lynch/Shanahan after a rough beginning and the rest is history. It's quite clear W & C Johnson are clueless... Maybe we all have to HOPE, what's the kid's name, Brick is a hell of a lot better than the old man and his uncle or we're f'n screwed!
     

Share This Page