With each week (and trade away of picks and signing of overpriced vets to sunk cost contracts) it becomes less and less likely that any GM or coach worth a damn will want anything to do with the Jets.
Well at this point there are plenty of issues, but it sure feels like we need a full and complete housecleaning. I know Boyer has survived multiple head coaching changes, and I’d be fine if they want to keep him, but every single offensive and defensive coach needs to go. There may be a few position coaches that don’t suck, I don’t really know, but they all have the stink of this shitshow and they all need to go. That being said, we still DO have good young players, so I’m not so sure I’d be selling off any of GW, Breece, Sauce, Q, Quincy, etc. This team has many of the pieces in place, which is why it’s so disturbing to be where we are. I think the biggest issue with this team is coaching. Way too many penalties, and stupid ones at that. I have no idea why we have SO much trouble getting plays off on time. This is basic high school shit we’re talking about. Way too many pre snap penalties when you include false starts and illegal formation calls to the delay of game. That is ALL coachable shit. This team is now just mailing it in, and once again we are irrelevant before Halloween. Meaningful games in December I seem to remember them saying. My fucking ass. I’ve been more pro-JD than not in the past, but I’m done…he got his chance to do the full on rebuild and started off great with that Jamal Adams trade. But 6 years in and our OL still sucks. Our coaching sucks. We should be WAY better than we are and that’s an indictment on coaching, which he picked. It all needs to go from the front office to the coaching staff…but I don’t necessarily think a fire sale is the best move. Get a competent GM and HC in here and we have the talent to make a turnaround I think. We’ll see
In all fairness there I think Peterson's total body of work is pretty solid. I also just don't think it's fair to ding him too much on Jacksonville given he inherited a cemented in option at QB in Trevor Lawrence. Who only got paid because the NFL QB market is a completely irrational logic mess atm that just pays everybody out of the fear of the unknown. Trevor is a bigger bust then a lot of people out there, who just take peak in at his TD/yards totals and never actually watch him play much since nobody gives a crap about the Jacksonville market, routinely acknowledge. Obviously was a great college prospect, but the guy hasn't been consistently good for going on 4+ years now and the football IQ/makeup to be ever be more then a decent filler option at the NFL level (and when put in a more ideal coaching situation/offense) isn't anymore there then it was with Zach Wilson imo.
I dont want Kevin Stefanski, Vrable or Gruden. I want a coach that has a proven resume of elevating a QB. Stafanski has had 2 good seasons out of 5 - im good there Mike Vrable - ok he went 9-7 a bunch of times (he did go to a AFC Champ game but he has never developed a QB and has put toghether the same FRIGGIN STAFF THAT IS CURRENTLY OURS! and Gruden? Dude won a SB in like 2022 and has been a disaster every other year
We don't often agree but while Carroll is probably not the guy to go to for the long term, he could be great as a consultant in trying to get the right people here and grease the skids for those getting out.
If this team MUST go the Offensive Coordinator route then I want either Ben Johnson - Detroit or Kliff Kingsbury - Washington. Full stop. Wanna know what else is full stop? Either of those guys long before or after they pass New York. Neither one of those guys are coming to this team so I'm just spittin' in the wind dreaming. To be honest, right now, I don't know of ANYONE that is coming to this shit show that isn't a nobody with NO credentials. Regardless of whether or not he needed to be fired, the handling of Saleh was the last nail in the coffin for Wood-RUFF. NO ONE, with any remote credibility, is fucking going to come here! NO ONE is going to put their ass on the line, with a dipshit owner such as Woody, only to be embarrassed 4 or 5 years down the road after that moron has fucked things up!! Whether it be injecting his "opinion" at the draft, in free agency or fucking with coaches behind the GM's back. The NY Jets really are a "Turd Sandwich" and anyone stupid enough to come work for them will have to take a HUGE bite! Having said that, @ouchy , NO, I don't want you to go be GM because you've got way too much class and respectability to denigrate yourself to that fuck tard Wood-RUFF!
sorry to say it, but nobody good , like the detroit OC, will work for woody. there have already been guys over the last 24 years, who even refused to interview. i hope Trump wins the election, so woody can be sent overseas to the UK again. then, either his brother overhalls the entire team, or, they sell it to somebody like uncle steve cohen. that guy wants to win, and doesn't hire unexperienced GMs.
Agreed, and I think we are all in agreement about Woody's bad leadership. And he has no clue how to manage a football team, or how to fix anything. Were just lining up next year for more shit that will come in rainbow colors for the media. Thanks man. But that's part of the point. I don't care about the money or my future prospects in the league. Woody would have no leverage over me, other than firing me. I only care about succeeding in the job at hand, my way, not his. I've worked with guys like Woody plenty. I know how he thinks, what he wants to hear, and how to manage him.
he picked bad players and coaches, save saleh who fielded a solid D. while the o was a consistent bottom feeder. total f, for joed
Lot of Rex Ryan talk and support popping since he went on record stating he'd absolutely take the job yesterday. Meh. Rex Ryan doesn't adequately solve the 2025 problem of having an unfirable OC, and zero competent minds in that offensive coaching room. We need it to be an offensive pedigree HC to offset that, and to at least offer the hope of a change in on-field results. Can revisit a Rex possibility again next year once the full blow up effort gets put in motion. When we most likely will be left wanting and pleading to fire this next Rodgers approved HC hire who is basically coming in here to fail anyway.
I'm trying to remember why we fired Rex again? Oh yeah - the same reason the Bills did. He's a good DC but not a good HC.
He was a fine head coach. He went to the AFC championship two years in a row with the worst starting QB in the NFL. Like all head coaches, he made a few mistakes ... but the mistakes that sunk the team were made by Tannenbaum (giving Sanchez the massive contract, which in turn meant we lost our offensive line depth). Then Rex took the first job that was offered to him (Buffalo), which was a deep mistake because it meant he was going to have to win without a QB (again). The media turned on him because talking about BS like feet was more interesting than talking about an 8-8 team that can't replace its QB (because of the contract). Give him an offensive line and a QB and see what he can do.
Woody don't want Rex, that would mean you admit a mistake and the Jets are obviously incapable of doing this, see Zack Wilson. Jets will once again go with a new hot shot coordinator who woos woody's granny panties off in the interview, because that's Woody has done since he bought this team and he is incapable of learning from 24 years of mistakes.
He didn't get fired from Buffalo because the offense was bad. He got fired because the defense was bad. The league figured out how to stop his blitzes, and he never adapted.
nah dude, that's not Woody at all. get a clue. He admits mistakes all the time, he literally was Jeb! Bush's campaign finance manager, the most anti-trump republican at the time, when that failed he became trump's biggest donor/UK ambassador. thats a big tail between the legs move... Besides woody loves Rex, I think theres a strong chance Rex is the coach next year
I mean Rex went on a fairly vocal and direct shots fired rant yesterday on the Jets coaches, and Rodgers likely didn't appreciate that since they were partially aimed at his boy. Granted Rex also (while clearly making a pitch for the job) seemed to almost purposely sidestep any direct criticism aimed Rodgers way, and as everybody else on that panel was calling Rodgers out as one of the worst NFL team acquisitions in history. But a week ago he is on record as calling Rodgers out for being a "bellow average QB" at this point in his career. Does a prickly Rodgers actually sign off on Rex? That is the million dollar question imo.
What makes you think that Rodgers wields the power he may have a year and a half ago? That was penthouse time in many minds; his view is now from the basement. The Rodgers experiment is ending in failure; the only thing left to decide is how to unwind it at the lowest cost to the future of the team.
