I truly believe this era went wrong beginning with the Sam Darnold pick...please hear me out. Of course, after Rex in 2014, it was going to be a hard act to follow up. Mike Mcagnan was arguably the worst drafting GM of all time and the roster slowly deteriorated in those years. I know Baker is no longer in Cleveland, Sam is on his 4th team, and we passed on Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson but when you trade 3 second round picks, in order to move up 3 picks, you better hit on that QB. What I am saying is we were in no position to be mortgaging the future at that time. Our WR#1 was Chosen Anderson and our OL, here's a blast from the past, consisted of Kelvin Beachum, James Carpenter, Spencer Long, Brian Winters and Brandon Shell. When you draft your franchise QB, you need to surround him with weapons and talent immediately and/or have the foundation in place...we did not. We finally made our way to 2020, with a bleak roster and new GM. I actually thought Joe Douglas came in with the perfect blueprint. We did Sam a disservice, and at that point in time, it was time to start over. What's the formula? Future LT, Mekhi Becton. HUGE miss. Could be the saddest miss of them all and a total disregard for character. Could have had wirfs. Ok, so we have our LT1, as we thought, we have another miserable year, and draft our QB1 with the second overall pick. Without getting into who we or who we shouldn't have, COVID scouting, etc. you took a swing and a huge miss with Zac. Now, two years in a row, to be found out later, you struck out big time on your draft picks. Furthermore, players like Denzel Mims, Elijah More, Jabari Zuniga, etc. We never found high quality, high character, players but these two misses will ruin you in hindsight. With a strong 2023 draft, we thought we could right the ship with some FA signing's over the years. And here we are today, I will say about Aaron Rogers that it's a young mans game and it's over. You need to be nimble as a QB, just can't do it at 40. We have a lot of talent tbh...I think this will be a desirable destination for a GM. I think we need to take a long hard look at who we want to keep and who can be dealt. I would trade Sauce..if that yielded multiple picks. Most of these picks are all luxury until you find that QB and that LT. I HOPE we have that in Fashanu, and think his RS year will pay dividends for him. How we get that next QB, without trading up the future for him....TBD. But, maybe this time we have more of a foundation in place at least.
It went wrong when Woody fired Tannenbaum while keeping Rex. Nobody good wanted the job, so Idzik ended up getting it, and it all went wrong from there. Tannenbaum was also the last of the Parcells guys Woody inherited. With no more Parcells guys, Woody had to make decisions for the first time, and the Jets have been the worst team in the NFL ever since.
it went all wrong when woody bought the team, nothing but a disgrace with little glimpses ever since, I mean he would of had better success throwing darts at a board, 15 straight years no playoffs can’t be a worse owner than this, you can fire and hire random people every year and accidently get it right once but not woody.
It all went wrong the day Woody closed the deal to purchase the team. Despite some small success in the first decade of his ownership, and we're using the term success very loosely here, because the culture change that Bill Parcells made lingered for a few years, it has become a completely dysfunctional mess of a franchise in the last 13 years. The groundwork laid by a guy who wasn't around to enforce it any longer can only last so long. It's almost impossible in today's NFL not to luck into a decent season and a playoff appearance here and there. The Jets did their share in the 2000s, a few playoff appearances, the nice little run the first two years of Rex's tenure, but even in those successful years the team was never quite good enough. It has gotten progressively worse since then as this moron has continued to make bad decisions, alienate good football people, and really just run the franchise into the ground to the point where now, after the last few years where it's been a complete shit show every season, the Jets will have major trouble attracting anyone decent to run this organization. Even when there's a decent roster, the team just can't get it together. It's a terrible culture with no expectation of winning, no accountability, no direction. And it's been the same no matter who's been out there on the field, and the front office, or anywhere else. The only common denominator is the owner. And he will continue to be. Bad culture doesn't just change itself.
I agree, but would like to add one thing... it starts above the GM. Woody needs to bring in a football guy, to build the organization, & then go powder some babies! .
It went wrong in Summer of 2011 when the Jets spent the shortened free agency period (due to the lockout) chasing Nnamdi Asomugha. This lead to the Jets missing out on other holes in the team and was the first cracks of the organization after back to back championship games. Eventually this lead to the Jets regressing, missing the playoffs, Tanny fired, Rex fired and the rest is history.
let's be practical, it all went wrong the day each one of us became Jets fans. unite and stop giving money to our worst enemy, the johnson morons. the only way to fight back.
Blowing three second rounders to move up for Sam was a move I never liked. The only silver lining to me ar the time us that Sam was my second favorite QB in that draft after Baker. Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen worked out so staying put and taking one of them would have been better in hindsight. Staying put and taking the guard Quinten Nelson is something I could have lived with. Things really went wrong when we brought in Joe Douglas. Sure Sam was struggling but we lost his favorite receiver Richie Anderson in free agency and it was just too soon to give up on a player that we sacrificed so much to obtain that did show flashes in his second year while Richie was on the roster. Had we stuck with Sam another year we could have ended up bringing in Baker Mayfield or another QB instead of going down the Zach Wilson rabbit hole. In addition to throwing Sam away and drafting Zach Wilson, JD also hired Saleh as head coach and tore the team down to the studs and never did build a winner. I sure bought into the idea that this team has a lit of talent and the right QB would make a difference (Zach was clearly doing harm out there). The Rodgers move just smelled bad from the start. At his age, mobility and risk of injury were going to be issues. It bought JD and Saleh more time when both deserved to be fired. JD has now pushed contracts of players like Rodgers and Mosely into next year. These guys are older players and are not likely to ve here in four years. With a salary cap we might just lose young talent because of this. Right now this team is a mess and both Woody and JD have blood on their hands.
Namath just had to show up on the Brady Bunch. My Dad was a Giants fan. I could have listened to him and followed a team that won multiple Superbowls. Instead I decided at a young age to fall in love with this sorry excuse of a franchise. I still think Ken O'Brien would gave lead our 10-1 team to the promised land over the Giants if the whole team hadn't gotten injured. That team beat John Elway on Monday night and looked like the real deal at the time.
Bingo. If we don't want to go back this far and just want to focus on the JD era it's the Becton pick over Wirfs. Ever since that whiff we have been chasing to fix the OL for half a decade.
It all went wrong when I saw them beat the Dolphins in OT to make the playoffs. I made a choice, and it was a terrible one.
Absolutely, president of football operations, something like that. Unfortunately, I think the ship has sailed on anybody worth anything actually coming here to work for that guy. He has undermined everybody that has worked here anytime things start to go wrong and the public gets restless.
It all went wrong, when the Jets became a NFL draft franchise, this organization has been the laughing stock of the NFL.
The worst thing about letting Darnold go was not taking the offer of 3 first round picks from the Niners that they gave to the Phins instead to draft Trey Lance - I don't think Sam would be a long term solution but we could've done a lot with those picks (well, if we didn't suck at drafting) and we would've avoided bringing in ZW so a win:win situation I admit I wasn't that bothered about giving up those second round picks to get Darnold as our history of drafting in the second round was abysmal so every pick was pretty much wasted anyway
