So did Brady, he wasn't great in Tampa but had a stellar defense and a good supporting cast. Rodgers just has to stay healthy, noone is asking him to carry the team just not to submarine it.
So basically.......we just need him to go out and NOT be a super old 41yo QB who is now 2 years and an ACL tear removed from putting up a 27th ranked QBR season. Eazy Peazy.
Umm, no we just need him to not be Zach Wilson. Im 46 and take offense to your suggestion that he is old lol. He is long removed from the achilles and has no history of being injury prone. 2 years removed from a 27th ranked season yet 3 away from 2 back to back MVPs. Its ok to be a darksider but let's be somewhat realistic and compare all aspects not just the negative ones that fit your narrative. I would be willing to wager Rodgers will finish the season top 10 with these weapons, top 15 at minimum which is a lot better than Wilsons 32...
Hoping that happens is fine and dandy. But I'll ask you the same question the last guy basically ducked. Which of the hopeful teams I listed on the outside, who also make a strong case for getting better, do you view as being worse bets then us to actually see more wins then last year. And why?
Defense. Qb is only part of the equation, of the teams you mentioned I believe our defense is substantially better than all of them. Not to mention the teams you listed may in fact be better than they were last year and some teams that were not mentioned because they were better last year may be worse this year. Just because we improved doesn't mean those teams can't as well and we still make the playoffs, them and us improving don't have to be mutually exclusive. Injuries can happen to any team and spiral them out of contention (could happen to us again).
Defense doesn't answer the question. My primary point here is that behind any claim this team is going to win more games has to be acknowledgement that they have to be coming from somewhere else. 5/6 teams I listed who missed the playoffs last year but can make their own case for being better in 2024 won more games then we did in 2023. Why shouldn't that factor in here too? For example if I gave you a choice between betting on either Cincy or the Jets to win more games in 2024, who are you honestly taking?
If you dont mind listing them again I didn't see the original post so I am not sure which teams you are referring to but my point is who cares about those teams. Good and bad teams fluctuate year to year, just because they make a jump this year doesn't mean we can't as well. Also if you can't look at the improvements on our roster from QB, OL, WR etc and not think we will be better this year than this argument frankly is just wasting both of our time as we will never agree.
4-13 is the new 4-12. 9 wins, that's like me saying I can shot put from here to Toledo. Not Toledo, Ohio. Toledo, Spain.
This topic would be a lot more interesting if the posters stated their projections from last year while posting their current opinion. The problem is that last year's win total was allowed to be redone a couple of times. No Mulligans this year! 8 wins. I may have said 9 last year - irrational exuberance.
If we stay healthy I could see us winning 10 games. My other concern being, is our coaching good enough to lead us to 10 wins?
Not even remotely close to good enough. If this team gets anywhere in the vicinity of a winning season, it's because the defense, Rodgers, and Hall dragged us there in spite of the incompetence on the sideline.
This is a tough over/under. Clearly the Jets have a 10+ win roster, but they are the Jets, so people will have a hard time picking the over. Much easier to pick the under since disaster always seems to strike the Jets. For me, I am taking the over. 2024 is make or break.
