Ok fine. Again with the your comments of idealized fantasies and forecasting where we will be 2-3 years from now like is the gospel truth. I don’t think the fans clamored for another 1000 yard fantasy receiver, but a no kidding solid number two that takes the pressure off Wilson, is complimentary on every down, AND creates great mis matches in the jump balls and red zone catches. Someone you have to account for on every play. We did not have that. He averaged about 80 yards for his first three games before he got hurt so no, he was not slowing down. In fact, the long ball game for SD went to hell after he was out with the ACL. And that was with a damned good QB. Our ability to run the ball in the red zone last year was awful, just awful, where the whole world knew what the play was going to be based on the stupid formation. Our OC needs to pull that playbook out of his ass and get real. Mixing up our running formations with two strong backs should absolutely be considered. When Hall went down in year one our team collapsed with it. As to forecasting how and what the Jets are going to do with Hall down the road based on history, well, no sense even addressing that. You do not possess a crystal ball. We have not had a consistent running game probably since Martin. So history is pretty stale in that area.
Exactly! The Jets play to win, not to help fans with their fantasy leagues. A power back is needed and would help. There are a number of ways in which that power back could be utilized. First, is to save wear and tear on Breece on short yardage situations and in the red zone, where a lot of people are hitting him, knees and ankles can get twisted, feet stepped on, and injuries could happen. Second, if Hackett could pull his head out of his ass, a power back can be utilized in the following ways: 1) the Jets have alternated their RBs anyway, so it's not like it would be taking a lot of snaps and opportunities away from Breece; 2) to beat on the LBs and DBs and wear them down, making it easier for Hall and Abanikanda to wrack up big yardage on runs; 3) pair him in the backfield with Breece on short yardage and in the red zone...the opposing Ds wouldn't know who to focus on. At times Breece gets the ball, and at other times, the power back does. At other times, the ball can be faked to one or the other and the other get a screen or dump off in the flat, or the ball can be thrown to a WR or TE, on other occasions the handoff could go to Breece and the power back could act as a FB and lead him through the hole. 4) alternating between the 3 RBs, would help to wear down the D - Breece gashing them with speed and power, the power back pounding on them, and Izzy beating them with speed and elusiveness. 5) if the Jets want a power rushing attack, they need a power back. Breece has power, but you don't want to waste his talent pounding on opposing Ds. That will wear him down and slow him down. Keep him fresh by letting the power back pound on the opposing D, and that will make Breece and Izzy more effective and dangerous.
I'm telling the gospel truth there as the league's history presents it, and as somebody whose mindset has evolved with such. The smart money doesn't pay RBs for what they have done in the past, or for a guy's "bigger name". You pay them based on what they are reasonably projected to both do and be worth in the future. That RBs are more or less terrible second contract investment bets is just the unfair truth bomb reality of the situation. I love Breece Hall as player right now, but the aging data and probability odds are overwhelmingly not in his favor of being some projection exception there. We ride him into the ground on that first contract, and then we probably move on to some other promising fresh body who is younger/cheaper. As for the rest nobody is saying that you don't need or shouldn't have a backup running back/s. Just that the "goal line" specialist back to a 220lb stallion is a dinosaur concept that does not warrant specifically budgeting in a bunch of excess money to throw at some "bigger name" second contract vet like Dillon. Who again, and just like we ignored last year while flushing that "bigger name! yay!!" Dalvin Cook money down the toilet, saw his efficiency as said vet specialist fall off across the board this last year. We'd get by just fine giving Breece Hall the CMC treatment imo. Be a lot funner to watch and follow too. Where you can still pair him with IA in all those hypothetical scenarios that also open the opportunity door to the young kid. Can stiil take a depth power back specialist flyer in the backend of the draft or out of UFA too. Or sign one of the vet free agent guys still out there that will take league min'ish level money when other teams take the same financial priority need pass.
breece was only 20 when he was drafted, he will plenty of tread left on his tires for a second contract the smart move would be to extend him three years next offseason with an out after the first extension year. this would give breece some security and the jets a bit of a discount. breece would be 26 when we have to make a decision on his contract, right around the age when backs can start to decline
That Jeudy contract extension looks pretty bad for a guy who hasn't lived up to his draft stock hype. Seeing us do that in a trade and sign would of pissed me off a lot more then this talk about spending a chunk of 1 year money on a older vet RB name btw
We should be able to add a backup RB for penny’s on the dollar. Zeke would be a good add. He’s still probably the best pass blocking back in the league. Kareem Hunt is out there too and is a great receiving back. They should command very minimal salaries.
You should less offended by my pointing out the reality of a RB's peak production lifespan and more offended with the fact that we are basically sacrificing a portion of that expected said lifespan at the alter of Aaron Rodgers' ego. Both Breece and Garrett deserve better then Hackett while being in their prime production years you can't get back latter. It's borderline criminal to cap their upside like that.
I wasn't offended. I was just saying that I didn't like the idea of needlessly using up Breece prematurely. I agree that both Breece and Garrett deserce better than Hackett, but Hackett didn't hold Rodgers back in GB, and he won't here. The only thing that can hold Rodgers back now is his age or if the Jets don't have an adequate backup at LT.
Another Almost Jet. Now just hoping Clowney signs. All of this drama could have been avoided by Keeping Huff and his 4 mil CAP hit. Though it looks like Saleh wants to find someone who is good at defending the run.
lol You’re bemoaning that they missed out on Shaq Barrett? Seriously brother, take a breath. They can do far better
Looks they wanted him, made an offer, and almost got him, until Miami stole him last minute. Why should we be happy about division rival taking the player we made an offer to? He was a good player last year. Aside from Clowney, who do you think is far better? Btw he cited no state tax as one of the reasons for going there.
He’s not a difference maker, he’s a depth piece. There will be plenty of better (cheaper?) options closer to training camp. The fact that Miami got him? Couldn’t possibly care less. They make offers to plenty of players who don’t accept, this is hardly a season killer
He's from Miami.. They simply had the advantage. If they had made an offer before us, I highly doubt he would've gave the NYJ offer much thought. He knew where he wanted to be, he wanted to be In Florida. It's not drama. Just life.
since when is he “from Miami” grew up in Baltimore. Boarding school in Nebraska, college in Nebraska and Colorado. Pros with Denver and Tampa. “From Miami?”
