Redzone Points

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  1. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    we cant run and Chad can only float passes...thats why we cant score TD's in the redzone.
     
  2. tanknyc

    tanknyc Active Member

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    my thing is that looked like a pretty solid line there now imagine with mawae gone and lets just say fabini was too we would of had dbrick, pete kendall, manigold, brandon moore, kareem mckenzie sounds pretty solid passing and running game all day long
     
  3. tanknyc

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    i agree with you thats why i think we should get that tall big possesion receiver during the draft someone with some height who on certain plays cant be stop prefably during 3rd downs and redzone plays
     
  4. Italian Seafood

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    I thought that's what McCairens was supposed to be. Keyshawn was one of a kind, though, a cut above the run of the mill big posession WR, I think.
     
  5. baamf

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    I agree on Keyshawn, but McCariens has never lived up to that role. I personally have always liked the TE in the redzone, I'm surprised we didn't make more use of that especially with Schotts background....
     
  6. tanknyc

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    personally i think macairens isnt tall enough to be the possesion receiver i think of height like plaxico, keyshawn, ed macaffrey
     
  7. OJDidIt

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    If Jets score more tochdowns they can get more pionts and wina chompionshp!!!!!!11
     
  8. tanknyc

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    do we ever run double te down there?
     
  9. King Koopa

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    That's why I said I would not be opposed to Dwayne Jarrett (6'5) or Sidney Rice (6'4) in the 1st round if they are BPA.....we don't have a Tall WR that fights for the ball when it's in the air on a jumpball......Tall WR's that can jump and are aggressive for the ball are huge assets in 3rd and short and the redzone....especially since Pennington is accurate but can't really zing it in there in congested areas like the redzone. Hell, I'd even take Randy Moss if the price was right, him and Pennington together would be awesome.
     
  10. Italian Seafood

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    You might be right. For some reason I thought he was a 6-4 guy like Keyshawn.

    Here's a thought, with Dan Henning fired in Carolina, Keyshawn might want to get out of there. He's a great run blocker and would be the answer in the red zone. He has enough money and a ring by now, why the hell not? I still wear my #19 to the games, bring back Keyshawn!!!!
     
  11. tanknyc

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    yeah mccairens is like 6'1"-6'2"... im not opposed to bringing him back to the jets but my only question is how long and how much gas does he have in the tank. i wish we could of kept him around throughout all the years of him being gone and also i never really liked a guy that complained all the time about not getting the ball. special a guy like wayne chrebet that was his real beef cuz he was getting the ball in clutch times and not him even made a whole dam book on it. wayne had the heart of big possesion receiver just not the height he might of been the steal of the century for the jets organization. if we search hard enough we could find guys like marcus colston of the saints type of players
     
  12. WhiteShoeWillis

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    Having a tall receiver would definitely help but I don't think that is a major reason for our redzone difficulties. Some of this was already said, but here's how I see it in order of importance.

    1: Our run blocking is an issue. You have to be able to pound the ball between the tackles in the RZ. A bruising RB with a nose for the end zone would help as well, but the blocking needs to come first. You need to be able to lineup in a big formation, where it's an obvious run play and simply overpower a defense that knows it's coming.

    2: CP is one of the best PA passers in the league. We need to a) call more PA passes in the RZ, and b) have the running game noted in #1 in order for it to continue to be effective. Schott seemed to get away from the RZ PA passes - maybe because defenses just stopped biting on it. I'm not saying he never called them, but they should be more frequent. Baker is definitely a legitimate receiving threat, especially from a big formation PA pass.

    3: CP simply cannot zip the ball into tight spots. That takes away the entire middle of the field for RZ passing opportunities. It is what it is and I'm not going to debate with anyone about it. That dead horse has been beaten, draged around the yard, and beaten again on here.

    4: It was Schotts first year as an OC. I'm sure he knows he needs to improve RZ TD % and will make a conscious effort to improve play calling next season.
     
  13. King Koopa

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    Oh i definitly agree with all of that....a real running game threat will take the pressure off of Chad, and will open up Play Action which he is great at.

    You can't deny the fact though, that a Tall and Talented WR with good ups and is aggressive with the ball in the air, would be a great asset for this team, especially in the redzone. You mention the fact that CP can't throw it in there in tight spots, and that is why I believe having a Tall WR will help even more in the Redzone. He is very accurate, and throws a nice fade/ lob that would come in handy in many different occasions. A big wr in the enzone also opens up everything else including the running game because teams will have to commit atleast a roll in zone coverage or a double team on a Randy Moss type WR.
     

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