Here me out for a moment before you start flaming me. He may be cut from the Raiders for cap reasons. They gave him a big contract and he has a huge bonus coming up. If/when that happens, his value is down, no one in their right mind would pay what the Raiders did and his production last season was essentially null. We can probably get him for a good price. He had over 1500 all purpose yards and 12 TD's in 14 games on a bad raiders team in 2005. He's the big 230 lb, downhill style back we need to pound the defense throught the course of the game. He also knows many of the players on the team. We've all seen what he can do when healthy. Now he may seem a bit injury prone but as part of a 2-3 headed monster with Washington and Houston he would probably get less carries than he was used to in Oakland. He would also be a part of the rugged Mangini training camp which seems to have helped us with injuries so far (albeit much of this could have been luck). We also would have been able to have signed him for a lower price so if he does continue to be injury prone we could simply release him without to much of a cap hit. Jordan could be our best value at RB if the Raiders do in fact cut him.
I mentioned late in the regular season and support it. Of course, it all comes down to price. Contrary to what many people think, he has been a good feature back. His first season in OAK he rushed for over 1,000 yards and had 70 receptions for another 500+. This past season the Raider O-line was horrible and whoever they had at QB was decidedly sub-par. He still is only 28 with low mileage and could be valuable to the Jets for a few years. We'll see what happens if he gets cut. I doubt the Jets would be the only team trying to get him on the cheap. Now if he signed with NE...
I prefer younger RBs, Lamont will be 29-30 this coming year. And to be honest, I never thought he was anything special even when he was here; a nice compliment to Cmart, but nothing special....
Like BlairThomas#1 said, he's 28 with low miles. Not young, but still 2-3 good years left on him. I also agree with BT1 that he is a good feature back. He would not cost us a draft pick, be relatively cheap and would buy us some time to continue building the defensive and offensive lines into dominant forces as we wait for that nice feature back to fall to us in a draft.
To the best of my knowledge it's all just speculation now. http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_4898308
Well he will be turning 29 this year, but I agree he has somewhat of low mileage. But again, I don't think he is that great of a RB. His vision is questionable and now his health is also. I also don't think he would be much of a Mangini guy after coming out and basically saying he never studied his playbook that first year in Oakland after getting that big contract. I understand your thinking here and it is not without merit, but IMO get younger and better or stick with what we have for now....
Why would we want a banged up RB, that was on our team already under a different regime? I rather have Washington, Houston or even Barlow getting carries again. I would not want anyone that spent two in in the disaster of Oakland.
He's had a couple of injuries but what rb hasn't? Jordan has far more talent than Houston or Barlow and Washington is a different type of back. Houston is also "banged up" if you want to focus on that. Barlow is just awful. If you don't see that, then I don't know what to tell you. Why penalize someone for having played for a bad team? I don't understand where you're coming from there. Why would you consider his having been here before and coming back a negative? It seems to have worked out fairly well with LC, no?
Sorry i would rather take a younger RB, no (big) injuries, and more than 2-3 years left. We're looking for a long term fix, not one for a couple of years. BUT i wouldnt mind picking him up if the price was right, AND we still pursued other RBs whether it be in the draft or in FA I just don't want us to pick him up, and abandon looking for other long term options in case he doesn't work out
I'm not in love with it...but as is all things if its the right price I would def'n consider it. Jordan is a good back with some injury concerns, if we can get him cheaply I would certainly welcome him back.
It's a sad state of affairs in the NFL when a 28 year old is deemed too old. If Jordan is indeed cut I wouldn't be upset with his return to the Jets. I wouldn't bet the house on it happing though.
The best value at RB is Michael "The Burner" Turner. He is going to be a very good back in this league for the next 8 years.
I do not penalize Jordan from coming from a bad team. I say this in almost every post, but our team obviously wants a "certain" type of player. Just because he played for us two years ago does not mean he fits in now. Coles was a leftover from an old staff, and in case you haven't noticed that he is the only one that pops off about the coaching staff. If he did not produce, he would be gone Barlow is here because we had no other choice at the time we brought him in
If the price had been right I wouldn't have minded him staying with us originally. But now you got a guy who is 2 years older and has been pretty banged up. I don't see the point of bringing in another guy who has mileage on him when we can afford to look young and draft some talent. I would be very surprised if Jordan has one more great year in him. Oh, wait, did he even have 1 greeat year himself? I am not sure that he did.
Jordan and Washington would make an EXCELLENT tandom. Throw in a 310 pound "short yardage specialist" like DRob (yes, that DRob) and look out. My ONLY hesitation with Jordan (well, two really), is he loves to bitch and he loves to run outside (to avoid the inside punishment). If Jordan can learn to SHUT THE F UP and run BETWEEN THE HASH MARKS (did someone say HASH??? ummm, Ricky Williams may be looking for yardage) then Jordan will be great in our system.
Turner is probably the worst value of any RB that may be added to a team in the offseason. He will be 25-years-old going into next season, cost a team a high draft pick, if not a first and third if a deal isn't reached and a big contract. A high draft pick would only cost one pick and will be younger. A FA will require no draft pick compensation and will probably have more friendly contract.
I agree with you- we can get Jordan for free OR draft a feature back like Bush/Lynch. The Chargers will be asking for too much
We can draft a young guy and get Jordan if he gets cut - that's part of the beauty of it - he would be relatively cheap. I'm all for drafting to build your team, but I'd rather see us spend draft picks and money on the lines and LB's at this point. Jordan had over 1500 all-purpose yards and 12 Td's in 2005 in 14 games on a bad team. Imagine what that would do for our offense. This year he was injured AND the team was AWFUL. I'm not saying he's great, but I think he's proven that he is way better than Houston or Barlow. Turner sounds nice but he'll be very expensive. There is also no guarantee any drafted RB or Turner would have 8 years or whatever number someone wants to throw out there. The average lifespan of an NFL player is just over 3 years.
