Lance Briggs

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  1. MyFavoriteMartian28

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    Thats because their philosophy is the build dominant O/D lines and fill in the rest of the parts behind them. That is why they do so well with nobody receivers. All that pressure yesterday on Brady was handled by the Pats O-line and as a result both of the mediocre WRs were able to get open, because Brady had time... you win games in the trenches. Belli's rationale is that there are lots of guys who can catch a ball and run with it, but not many 350+ linemen who can stuff the run, rush the passer and occupy 2 blockers on every play... So having a Wilfork is more important than having a Ray Lewis on defense. The Patriots LBs are all pretty slow, none of them are especially athletic, but they are all smart and have a guy in front of them to swallow up blockers allowing them to always be exactly where they need to be to make plays.
     
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    Attackett Well-Known Member

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    I don't know where you got that info from, last I saw with 26 mil in cap space we weren't even in the top 10.
     
  3. A.C.E.S

    A.C.E.S New Member

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    Hes more then a great player in my mind. I think bringing him changes our entire defense. This guy is a monster.
     
  4. JoeWillie130

    JoeWillie130 Well-Known Member

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    Briggs would be a a great addition. Lets see what kind of price tag he comes with.
     
  5. tanknyc

    tanknyc Active Member

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    if thas the case with briggs he is the same height just ten pounds heavier then vilma so for that case we could move vilma to outside and get a FA or draft an inside linebacker
     
  6. A.C.E.S

    A.C.E.S New Member

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    He is the guy. He changes everything, just watch how he is all over the place. If there was a guy in FA that I would pay big bucks too, it would be Lance Briggs.
     
  7. Youth Is Served

    Youth Is Served New Member

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    It is pretty simple, Briggs has NEVER played OLB in a 3-4. He will be either franchised with a 1st round tender or he will be demanding big bucks in the FA period. There is absolutely no reason to sign a big name FA like this who does not fit our scheme when we could easily draft one for a lot cheaper. This draft is pretty deep when it comes to talent for 3-4 linebackers. Watch carefully with the pick the Jets recieved from the Redskins. OLB might be the pick of choice there.

    The chances of Briggs or Thomas signing with the Jets is simply 0%, feel free to put that in your signature and hold me to it.

    Mangini builds like the Pats as people have said the trenches is where it matters most. You do not go out and spend a ton of money on a player who doesnt fit the scheme, just because he is good with another team.

    You get players that fit your scheme, I trust this organization to do the right thing. As much as I like Briggs as a player he does not fit the 3-4 scheme that is built here. There are so many better ways to spend our money then on OLB's like Briggs and Thomas.

    Youth
     
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    Youth Is Served New Member

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    Colvin actually fit the scheme that is in New England. Briggs does not fit into that mold of OLB pass rusher. Kind of unfair to compare the two.

    Youth
     
  9. inSANITy

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    ?Schlegel?
     
  10. jetsfan119

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    The Jets should take a look at these guys. Gage would be a great 3rd reciever and he is young. Manning Jr. would really bloster our CB situation as well.
     
  11. hazmat

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    The Jets key focus this offseason is the defensive line and the offensive line. If they had to go into next season with the same linebackers I don't think it would be a problem. I would still like them to get a pass rushing specialist at weak side but it's not necessary compared to getting at huge nose tackle and another guy to rotate in at end. Ideally you'd want them to have 4 or 5 solid defensive lineman.

    If you look at the way the Pats defense is built, they usually just rush 3 or 4 lineman. And the lineman are so good that they can get pressure alone. Sometimes they will blitz a backer but usually they drop into their cover 2 with 5 guys under and rushing 4. Very difficult to move the ball on them consistently.

    Big difference between the Pats and the Chargers and Steelers. The Chargers and Steelers both have solid defensive lines but not like the pats. Both of them rely on their linebackers to get pressure.

    So the question is which way will Mangini go? I think he will focus on the defensive line and if a dominating pass rushing linebacker falls into his hands in the draft he will draft him.
     
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    And in New England, the thought is the Pats might go after him for MLB if the price doesn't get astronomical. BB doesn't like drafting LBers.
     
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    Roosevelt colvin 6-3 250

    Lance briggs 6-1 240 slight difference , but this guy is a football player, he'll adjust.
     
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    the bears run the 4-3....i forget the name of their other tackle right now, but him and tank johnson are pretty solid DT to play behind.

    mangini wont switch his base D to a 4-3....even though i think most here would agree the D would have been better served by that this year seeing as the players fit that D better.

    and LB is going to want way to much $$$....he turned down a 5 year 30 mil offer to stay. at that price, he can go, and he can keep away from here.
     
  15. Youth Is Served

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    Tommie Harris...Their Defensive line makes their linebackers so much more successful. Chicago is a perfect example of why you build the line first. Briggs will be franchised and would be too expensive of an experiment when the Jets have much bigger needs and can find a young inexpensive player in the 2nd round who fits the scheme. I agree completely with you on this.

    The Jets run a 3-4 not a 4-3 everyone needs to get over thinking we are gonna be going after a big name FA like Briggs. If he was a 25 year old OLB who has shown excellence at filling in at the OLB in the 3-4. Then maybe it would be thought of, but instead he is a OLB in a 4-3 and have never player it any other way. On top of that giving up a 1st round pick and paying him a butt load for the next 5 years is the exact reason this team was in a hole.

    If you wanted Briggs then you should have kept Herman around because it was be a stupid personel decision and Mangini is much smarter then to do that. Give me a DT who plays like Tommie Harris or Tank Johnson over Briggs anyday. Matter of fact give me a DT like Wilfork and a DE like Seymour, and watch every LB on our team flourish.

    Youth
     
  16. Matty Jets

    Matty Jets Well-Known Member

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    i'm not sure if anyone mentioned this, but briggs was the very next linebacker choosen after the Jets picked Hobson....oh, the irony.
     
  17. dBLitzer28

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    Good find ... well Hobson isnt that bad ... he is certainly not a bust ... but Ill take Briggs over Hobson anyday
     
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    How is this guy not big enough 6 1 240lbs. Bigger than vilma there is no reasonhe cant play mlb
     
  19. Matty Jets

    Matty Jets Well-Known Member

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    yea, before this season i was down on hobson but, like Bryan Thomas, they improved mightily in the new schemes
     
  20. tanknyc

    tanknyc Active Member

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    he is 10lbs heavier then vilma and much slower then him too so if vilma quote unquote is faster then him then how on earth would briggs be able to make plays in there
     

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