The schedule the rest of the way

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  1. cval

    cval Well-Known Member

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    I am just in an optimistic mood today.
     
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    Losmeister Well-Known Member

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    if we play to our best we can stay with anyone....anything less and we can lose to anyone...it's a bad beat
     
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    dmw Well-Known Member

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    The Jets D is creating turnovers b/c they are putting massive pressure on the opposing team's O. It's not just luck, but I agree that the Jets offense has to play better to make the playoffs.
     
  4. IDFjet

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    NYJ are +5 TO differential thru 6 games. The league leaders over the last 4 years:

    2022: +13
    2021: +14
    2020: +11
    2019: +21 New England and they won superbowl

    If the jets average +1 over the next 11 games that'll put them at +16 for the season which is unrealistic although possible.

    As you say, without a decent offense even averaging +1 a game will not provide enough given how we were +4 against Philly and won by 1 score.

    If we had a decent offense and a +16, we will be superbowl contenders.
     
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    Enjoy it!:D
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    The defense creating so many turnovers is not sustainable. The offense needs to move the football better

    I thought last year it was remarkably unlucky how good the Jets defense was with a lack of turnovers. Now suddenly they are creating 3 or 4 a game. Makes no sense
     
  7. PulseJet

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    There is also a chance the offense (particularly Zach) can execute better in the redzone and score more TD's. Next 3 weeks Zach needs to make some stats. One can dream!
     
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    I think there's some evidence that turnovers are a lot more random than is commonly thought. Even the best defenses don't consistently cause the most turnovers year over year. We're basically just seeing mean reversion this year. Our defense created less turnovers than would be expected last year and more than would be expected this year.
     
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    Pretty much same as last season.
     
  10. cval

    cval Well-Known Member

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    We are getting to the QB a lot more which is causing poor throws and Int. Our int numbers are low as we have dropped several and a couple of bad calls. Fumbles maybe a little bit more on the luck side our picks are not lucky.
     
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    He was out for the year last season.
     
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    Surprise of the year, Rodgers comes back for 12/17 game in Miami, Jets win last 3 then beat up on AFC in playoffs.

    It's looking like either Miami or Buffalo will make playoffs, not both.Trading Hardman may come back to bite them but other than Kelce none of the Chiefs receivers are worth a damn.
     
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    That Rice kid looked ok to me. You don't like him?
     
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    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    rice looks like the best of the bunch but it aint saying much when your top 4 are moore, hardman, toney, and rice.
    that offense runs through kelce
     
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    Alot harder to accomplish than most people think - Zach is still learning and while he has shown improvement, as the playing field shrinks and your play calls are numbered, moving the ball through the red zone into the end zone is one of the hardest things to grasp for a young QB…..even more so with a shaky OL. He has shown the ability to stay away from turnovers and guide somewhat steady drives into scoring range - steady improvement. Now turning those FGs into TDs - even a 50% markup - is more improvement.
     
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    I think they need to open it a little more in the redzone. It feels that once they get their they are content with the "okay we are guaranteed at least 3 points here lets not fuck it up now" mentality. That probably comes with no trusting zach and then obviously having a defensive minded HC.
     
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    Oh definitely . That’s plain as day. In a way I can’t blame Saleh being in his predicament. On one hand the Jets need to find a way to take the leash off Zach so he can grow. On the other hand just about every game has been dictated by a good tough defense so simply staying with the “let the defense win the game and don’t let the offense blow it” mantra has served him well to this point. Saleh is in his third year and realizes he needs to start putting Ws in the standings.

    I think we may see Zach taking more downfield shots as this schedule lightens up…but not overly so as I don’t see Saleh swaying too far from his current winning formula. In a way he’s between a rock and a hard place and the OL is still too shaky for his liking …
     
  18. Jonathan_Vilma

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    I don’t get why we don’t see them run zone read plays. They can just tell him what to do without really reading it so there aren’t any fumbled exchanges. I have to guess we’d catch a team with a crashing defensive end more than once and lots of green for the QB with Hall back there.
     
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  19. IDFjet

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    Apparently he’s a rookie 2nd rd choice. Of course Mahomes helps but he’s looked productive already. Agreed Kielce is the man
     
  20. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Something about all the shit going on with Travis Kelce makes me think that guy will retire after this season.
     

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