I've seen a number of posters mention it, but Dalvin Cook looks slow and like he's done. On The Jets Way today is the following. " I'm getting to the point where I think the Jets need to cut ties with Dalvin. It's becoming glaringly obvious that he has nothing left. The Jets are significantly worse when he's on the field, not just rushing but as an overall offence. According to Michael Nania, the Jets averaged 3.4 yards per offensive play with Cook on the field, and 6.8 yards per play with him off the field." What are your thoughts?
It depends on the structure of his contract and whether we might be able to get anything for him (doubtful). If he has to get paid by the Jets anyway, I'd simply move him to the bench. If he becomes a locker room distraction, just cut him and eat the money. In any case I wouldn't have him take another snap unless it's an emergency.
I voted maybe. I wouldn't go as far as to say he should be cut but I definitely think he needs to be on a short leash over the next couple of games. I'm willing to give him a few more opps to see if he just needs a little more time to ramp up but he's not looked good so far. I think if he continues to struggle as much as he has through the bye week, I'd be in favor of bumping MC and Izzy up the depth chart. Cook was always a luxury and I understand the process that led us to signing him but at some point the sunk cost fallacy kicks in. Let's hope we can avoid that.
I'd like to see him get the ball in space. But yeah... he's just a waste of a roster spot at this point.
My thoughts are that Cook is washed and doesn't run as hard nor as violently as he did before the shoulder injuries. With regards to the play in the video my thoughts are that he would have been tackled for the same slight gain if he attached the "hole" identified because an unblocked LB and a D-lineman were winning against Tippman and our FB was effectively blocking nobody. Meanwhile, on the L side of the line it looks like Becton gets great inside leverage and seals D-lineman with the LG and TE blocking to the 2nd level (appears to be designed but with the edge defender ignored). Unfortunately when your center and RG both get beat and an edge defender is active behind the LOS it doesn't matter which of the two "holes" the RB hits. This play actually reinforces my overall opinion of the offseason which is if the Jets had spent as much time and $$ investing in the O-line as they did in a washed up slot receiver and RB, the team would probably be 3-1 at worst right now.
Hold onto him and maybe another team's key RB goes down and we may get a little something for him? Teams can get desperate.
He’s been absolutely awful. He runs right into the pile and isn’t seeing the holes whatsoever. I don’t see a purpose in cutting him (unless he’s going to bitch for the ball) since it’s not like there’s anywhere to use the money on, but he certainly shouldn’t really be getting the ball anymore.
well he certainly looks done to me…every run is him hitting the prescribed hole no matter what it looks like, and most of the time, he just runs into a defender for a 1 or 2 yard gain. What’s missing, and what you can clearly see from Hall, is VISION. When Hall runs, he seems to find an open hole more often than not, and glides or cuts there and has broken a bunch of runs already. Cook just runs into defenders and he’s no Derrick Henry…he doesn’t bowl them over and keep going. Just looks like an old and slow RB… Maybe he does need ramp up time as he didn’t really have a training camp or preseason, so I’m not sure I’d cut him, but I would love to see MC and/or Izzy get some shots and take his carries away
"Dalvin Cook signed a one year contract with the New York Jets worth $7 million with $5.8 million guaranteed. Cook can earn $1.2 million through per gameday active roster bonuses" https://overthecap.com/player/dalvin-cook/5627 Cutting him probably does not make sense, since the contract is guaranteed, but we can achieve both performance and financial benefit of up to 1.2 mil (less now that he played 4 games, but still) if we make him inactive. I think it is a no brainer to give Izzy a shot and see what he can do, while inactivating Cook. This is very similar to Al Woods. While it made sense to sign them at the time, they should not be taking up spots from better performing players just because they are expensive veterans. Saleh pulled Woods to inactive and our defense generated more pressure. Cook's turn.
Never felt we needed to sign him in the first place. He has done nothing to change my mind. I prefer Carter over him any day. And would like to see Izzy get some plays.
The difference is that Woods has a cheap contract of only around $1.2 million (and a signing bonus of $500k) and the Jets signed him to help stop the run. Unless he was just playing poorly, inactivating him makes little sense to me.
He's an excellent blocker and a good screen guy--in other words he could be used on 3rd down but since they're using MC1, he's superflous. Therefore, if there's any money to be saved, he should be cut and lets give the kid from Pitt a few snaps.
Looks like it is a 2.25 mil contract for Woods: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-jets/al-woods-6631/ But yes, he was playing poorly. He was stationary and wasn't generating any pressure. With him and JJ playing a lot the line just couldn't break through. So, Saleh deactivated Woods, and gave Huff more reps reducing JJs. It definitely helped. Similarly, in spite of the contract which is already sunk cost, Saleh can deactivate Cook and give Izzy a shot. We will probably get better results. Since Denver had terrible running defense, he may give Cook another shot, but I think soon Izzy needs to take his place.
I always thought Woods was just a cheap insurance policy if we struggled against good run teams late in the year and/or the playoffs. Think Browns, Patriots, Ravens, Bengals. I’ll be shocked if Woods isn’t active against the Eagles.
He's been disappointing so far obviously but I'm not ready to give up just yet. Unless he's truly washed up at age (barely) 28 I still think we may be glad he's on board before 2023 is all said and done.
Actually, Wood's contract is $1.2 million, not $2.25 million. $2.25 is his cap hit. He had a $500k signing bonus and a $420k roster bonus. Woods was never supposed to get pressure. Was he playing poorly or being poorly utilized? If the Jets have been playing him on passing downs, then that's on Saleh and Ulbrich for being stubborn and inflexible. Woods was supposed to play on running downs and Jefferson on passing downs. If Woods had played vs KC, I don't think Pacheco would have continually hurt the Jets on running plays, and the Jets may have been able to get off of the field on 3rd downs. At least that was the rationale they gave for signing him. Huff getting more snaps is a good thing. IMO the Jets have to keep him next year. I don't like JJ's snaps getting cut however. Have they played Clemons at DT yet? IMO JFM, Huff and JJ should get the lion's share of the snaps at Edge, Clemons should play exclusively at DT and McDonald and Lawson get whatever snaps are left, with most of McDonald's snaps coming in the 4th qtr. when the opposing OTs are tired. IMO Cook should be de-activated, Hall get more snaps, and Abanikanda and Carter splitting the rest of the snaps
I agree that I'm not ready to give up on him yet. I don't think he was here for most of TC and I don't think he played any in preseason, so he's bound to be a little rusty. Also, some players need a lot of snaps to get into the flow of the game. The problem is that he is hurting the offense right now and he was signed in case Breece wasn't ready to go, and Breece has been very good. I'd keep practicing Cook to see if he sharpens up any, but for the next game or two I'd give Carter and Abanikanda his snaps. Abanikanda is bound to break off some long runs where Cook is getting stuffed.
They will hopefully bench him and bring Izzy Into the fold. It Is baffling how magnetic he Is for opposing DL's..
