Dalvin Cooks signs with Jets - 1 year deal

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  1. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    I remember them in college, nothing in the pros outside of the allegations which I reiterate should be taken seriously but shouldn’t be taken as fact until proven so.
     
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    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    would only cost us if traded 6mil this year and 17mil next year. more then doable for a top 5 WR to pair with wilson. since were "all in" for 2 years, would make sense for us for sure.
     
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  3. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    Deshaun Watson was never convicted of a crime either. I'm sure he's a stand up guy

    I'm not saying he's a women beater but he's been accused of it a few times and it could be a concern. That's all.
     
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    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    They would actually be impossible to stop on offense. Pick you poison.
     
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    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    usually we are on the other side of this.
     
  7. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I agree that they shouldn't be taken as fact until proven so, but it's strange that bad character allegations have followed him for most of his life. Usually where there's smoke, there's fire, but not always. I hope that he is innocent and won't have any new allegations arise while he's with the Jets.
     
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  8. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    It appears that the kangaroo court of public opinion likes to moonlight as the Zach Wilson Defense Force.
     
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  9. BroadwayAaron

    BroadwayAaron Well-Known Member

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    Im still trying to figure out what character concerns have followed him throughout his career once he left FSU. These allegations aside. People are making it sound like he’s been a cancer.
     
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    You obviously haven't a clue about the Bowden-era FSU culture (hi Christina Suggs) and the coyly worded post above is tosh. Erica Kinsman charged Jameis Winston with rape, a charge that (as with Cook) was eventually not prosecuted. . . Yet Florida State had NO PROBLEM dropping $950,000 of taxpayer funds to settle with a.....what did you call them again?...a self-proclaimed victim?.....

    That a thieving, sexually assaulting piece of trash like James 'Uber' Winston was not prosecuted nor spent time in jail proves that he was an "innocent" piece of trash? And as for the smug contention/conclusion that Delvin Cook's some misunderstood goody-two-shoes, isn't that just more egotist wind-bagging?

    https://www.nfl.com/news/dalvin-coo...awsuit-vikings-rb-denies-claims-through-attor

    Photos included within the lawsuit show Trimble's face bloodied. There is also a screen shot of a social media conversation in which Trimble writes, "Dalvin My [sic] face is so messed up I probably won't even get to go see my family for thanksgiving [sic]."

    Cook replied: "And I'm sorry for that! But the situation just got out of hand from the jump."


    But let's agree to disagree. Some of us playfully 'hit on women' while others (present company excluded *cough*) 'hit women' or go to bat for them.

    @hornblower: kind regards

    Having said that: much as I like Bam and Carter, I do not see them matching Cook's "numbers" and last year's loss of Breece Hall (and the OL) proved that. Cook's arrival gives Breece further time to get up to speed. We also have Izzy-from-Pitt as an added potential weapon both run and catch.


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  12. BroadwayAaron

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    https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...scoring-victories-in-his-off-field-legal-case

    “The May 1 court order lists the evidence Cook has introduced, including Trimble’s medical records, text messages, and Instagram posts, an affidavit from a witness contradicting the notion that Cook was the abuser in the relationship with Trimble, video suggesting that Trimble was the aggressor on the dates in question, and an admission from Trimble via text message that she was indeed the aggressor on the dates in question. The judge concluded that Trimble and her lawyers had this information in their possession, and that Cook made a sufficient showing that Trimble and her lawyers “either had knowledge of facts or intentionally disregarded facts that created a high probability of injury to the rights of others by a clear and convincing standard.”

    The judge also concluded that Cook made a sufficient showing that Trimble and her lawyers “deliberately proceeded to act with indifference to the high probability of injury,” by engaging in “efforts intended to generate unfounded negative publicity in order to pressure [Cook] to settle.”

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    This is why you wait until the trial before making definitive statements. A lot of info here that isn’t reported by Mushnick, who had been awful at his job for a long time.
     
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    It doesn't matter how large you blow up the font or what color you add to your link, the important factors remain that what you cite is simply an allegation as noted in the opening line. The fact is that after a trial examining all the evidence a jury took only thirty minutes to find the defendant "not guilty." That may not be good enough for you and how you form your opinion, I prefer to go on the evidence, not self-serving unsupportable claims. All I know about Dalvin Cook is what I read in the papers, I doubt you have better sources but the second link I provided contained at least three paragraphs as to why the complainant was not a credible witness. The jury heard it all and acted quickly.

    I also choose not to base an opinion of one man on claims made against another, regardless of tenuous threads of commonality aka "guilt by association.". Our legal system is not perfect, but I prefer it to one where a simple charge is sufficient to ruin someone's life. Your "mileage" appears to vary - so be it.

    As far as football matters are concerned Cook may be of value while Hall is getting back up to speed but my fear is that the money paid him might be more important in funding a viable NFL quality backup at QB should the need arise than adding an RB to the satisfactory, if not elite, group on hand.
     
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    Anyone basing their own opinion on the linked essay must realize that the Mushnick piece is not a news article relating facts by a reporter but an opinion piece reflecting what is on the columnist's mind. As a columnist as opposed to a reporter he is free to accept or disregard any information available to him with no need for objectivity.
     
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    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Cook can be a POS person and a good running back. You dont have to cheerlead or get out your "Law for Dummies" book for him just because you like the signing. He went to Florida State, a.k.a. Free Shoes University, I thought it was a given that he was unsavory.

    none of that matters on 3rd and 2 though. I would much rather have him back there than Carter, Knight or Abanikanda (sp?)
     
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    In this whole useless thread about Cook and his innocence vs. proven guilt, THIS is the most important statement. Wilson may, in fact, be an O.K. backup but what about behind him? The 49’ers proved, last year, that it was necessary to have THREE QB’s to get to the NFCG. I like the pickup from a production standpoint but we definitely have areas where the $$ could have been spent more wisely.
     
  17. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    They will have Boyle on the PS as an emergency QB.
     
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    Through various incentives, the running back can make up to $8.62 million if he runs for 1,250 yards, totals 1,500 yards from scrimmage, is on the active roster every week of the regular season and helps the team win the Super Bowl.

    Very glad to see the contract included these stipulation. If Cook isn't suspended, can deliver 1,250 rushing yards and plays every week then he was worth signing whether or not we win the Super Bowl. Legal troubles aside, it remains to be seen how much tread Cook has left on the tires after carrying the rock so many times for the Vikings and coming off of a major surgery. Hopefully it works out and he finds his second life here, but either way having such a contingency-laden contract can only inspire Cook to perform.
     
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  20. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I agree for the most part but the more I watch that dude Izzy, the more I think he turns into something. He kind of reminds me of Robert Smith with those long strides and the spin.

    If they manage the backs right, we can gain some serious yards on the ground.
     
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