Hear me out. No one is arguing Rodgers isn't a HOF QB and will raise the overall level of the Jet offense. The issue comes in with the familiarity factor. OC is new and is bringing in a new system which everyone has to learn. Some are familiar with it, some aren't. This will take time and real game experience which will translate into some frustrating losses along the learning curve. The OL still is a work in progress which is huge both in the effectiveness of the offense AND Rodgers' health overall. What we saw last night was just a trial run and honestly, Hackett had to keep it simple because of the personnel available however, the trending towards predictable playcalling later in the game gives pause. Hopefully that doesn't carryover to the regular season. I think the CS is also making a mistake by not giving Rodgers and the first unit more realtime experience during the preseason. They can walk thru for hours on end but once the games begin, all bets are off as to how they will mesh into an effective unit.. Or not. They should play at least 2 preseason games or at least start them and let Zach/Boyle and company mop up. Rodgers & Co. still aren't so great they can just roll their helmets on the field and win games. I say all of that to say perhaps we should temper our expectations down quite a bit. I know JD spent a lot of cash and bought in a lot of new talent but so did Cohen and we saw how that worked out. Just because Rodgers has some of the guys he used to play with doesn't mean they will immediately duplicate the GB offense of the past. We better pray our new OC isn't like his dad or we're fckd. Lets see how things work out first before our heads get so big they won't fit into MetLife.
I think there will certainly be growing pains early in the season, especially with that schedule. Get to 3-3 at the bye and I think they will be fine.
Yeah I think we are. In the voting thread nearly everyone voted 9+ wins Saleh is unproven and Hackett is terrible. The defense looked good last year but they did face an abnormal amount of backup QBs. 7 wins is very possible
If they win 7 games while adding Aaron Rodgers the entire FO needs to be cleaned out. That would be as big a failure as the Mets have been this year.
Joint practices are better than preseason games. I wouldn’t read anything into last nights game in regards to the staff or play calling. It is the most vanilla gameplan on both sides of the ball. The jets and browns also play each other week 12 or 13 on TNF. Why would they show each other anything? the only takeaways from last night should be: 1) will McDonald pops off of screen + that front is going to be scary 2) Izzy is explosive 3) our kicking game is finally something we don’t have to worry about 3) we have Aaron fucking Rodgers. His interview was incredible 4) oh, and that Darell Revis looks like he is really enjoying retirement
If that happens, JD and Saleh are gone for sure. Woody would have to basically let Rodgers choose the GM and the HC if he wants him to stick around after a disappointing debacle like that.
Until we actually see Rodgers play with the 1's under the new OC/system, we really don't know what its gonna look like. The more time spent together, the better this offense can be. I think waiting until the regular season to play the 1's is a pretty arrogant assumption that these guys are so good, they really don't need time to get to know each other and the system. As the saying goes: Everybody has a plan until.... I think the 1's should start the 2nd and 3rd games at the minimum. If we're down to playing the subs early in the season, we're fcked anyway. Rodgers needs to know what he's working with under fire. That's not what a joint practice can give you.
Saleh would absolutely be the fall guy and get fired. I am not sure JD would get canned. Popular opinion with all of the football "experts", media, fans around the league is JD has put together a pretty good roster. Last year both the OROY and DROY. Breece probably would have won OROY if he didn't get hurt. I think JD would get another shot with a new HC but if that doesn't work then it would be house cleaning time.
Good post boss. I particularly agree with this portion. I hope Rodgers and starters play a full quarter in Carolina game and play the first half of Tampa Game to get into groove. Real time game experience trumps practice. We are a new offense and we need all the real time experience we can get.
A few people on tv last night mentioned a possible “slow start”, due to lack of familiarity etc. I hadn’t thought of it, but makes sense. But I’m not putting anything on the game last night. That’s basically a glorified pick up game.
There is absolutely no reason that Rodgers, Garret Wilson, or any starters should take a snap in the preseason. It accomplishes absolutely nothing. All it does is open up the possibility of some backup 2nd or 3rd stringer that is trying to make the roster on the opposing team to take out Rodgers and hit him to make a statement that they deserve more playing time. This also isn't the the early 2000s anymore. Joint practices are live and way more intense than this vanilla dogshit they throw out there in the preseason. Coaches have been saying for years that joint practices are way better than meaningless preseason games. McVay sat every starter during preseason and they went on to win the Super Bowl in the same year with Stafford. There's a reason Brady and the Pats always started slow for the first 3-4 weeks and people would always ask if they done, then go run off 10 in a row. The first 4 weeks of the season are basically the preseason for all these teams. If Rodgers blows out his knee in a meaningless preseason game you will be sitting here asking why the hell is he playing in a pointless game? I am so good on these guys not playing a snap until September 11th.
I was going to write essentially the same thing. I'd give the starting offense *maybe* one series in the entire preseason. Anything more is nuts. I'm not getting worked up over an early August preseason game where the majority of it was QB'd by Boyle and Streveler. Boyle is a PS QB and Streveler is not an NFL QB. I'm not sure what people were expecting.
I am usually not one to put much stock in just one game but losing to the Bills would hurt. If the Jets want to win the division, they need to win these games at home and try to steal at least one on the road. If they drop the opener, then the Bills will have a good chance to sweep the Jets. Beating them in OP will not be easy.
Are we so concerned about Rodgers' health that we dare not play him until the season starts? Is he that fragile? Is the OLine that bad? How do we know? Like I said, the 1's need to play together in a game before they count. Not the whole game but at least a qtr.
It has nothing to do with any of that Cman. It has everything to with him being a 20 year vet that doesn't need meaningless snaps. Whatever he needs to work on he can do in the joint practices where it is live and way more intense than a preseason game. Rodgers playing in a preseason game where it is a vanilla gameplan on offense and defense does nothing. Preseason is for the guys who are 49-57 on the roster and need to show they deserve to make it -- not a 4x MVP, 1st ballot HOFer.
It's also a good opportunity for Zach to get playing time and work on improving his game. He needs the reps in game action even though its only preseason.
