This time next year 50% of us will look like geniuses for our current take on the trade and the other half will look like asshats. I'd rather be on the optimistic side, why anyone would prefer the waah side I will never understand. Fact is noone knows if it's a good trade and won't till the end of next season.
The 2nd is basically Elijah Moore, so Moore, drop 2 spots in 1st and a 1st next year. If they go deep in the playoffs for 2 years+ i'm ok with that cost.
Understood, but would you have walked away rather than take this deal? IOW: Is this a bad deal that you wouldn't have agreed to?
The Jets gave up #74 and Moore for the 2nd. I've gotten to the point where I just reflexively hate JD's moves. At this point by record he is the worst Jets GM since whoever got stuck with Rich Kotite in '95 and '96. I think the actual damage is worse than that because I don't think the Jets will find a Parcells willing to come in and bail Woody out in 2 years.
When it got to the point of the Jets losing leverage, I might have been content with the deal, if not happy about it. This seems out of character for Joe Douglas and has Woody's vaseline-smeared fingerprints all over it.
This Is exactly my point and I feel you understand what I'm trying to say within my layered rants right now. This was a desperate move. It was a move that did not have the future's best interest at heart. If this fails, not only was this move a failure but this sets us up for further failure In the future. As a fan. This fucking sucks because I truly do feel there will be a significant mess to be cleaned up If this doesn't work out. I understand certain fans being so happy about this. I get it. It stems from 13 years of not making the playoffs. 50 plus years since winning a championship. I get that. .. but, when you look beyond that temporary fix, which Is exactly what this Is. There Is still a massive problem at QB after this temporary fix retires and JD just made that problem a hell of a lot worse by essentially giving away a first round pick next year for a bullshit condition with zero guarantees tied to It. Not a good look when you look beyond the obvious here.
Maybe. Or maybe there were other considerations we're not aware of that led to JD agreeing to this. After all, he's generally been the fleecer, not the fleecee, on trades.
You always have a fantastic way of driving a point home. Well played. Well played. This was the perfect description.
I think this is an awful deal for the Jets. I hope I am wrong and AROD plays great for at least 2 years.
They can express to their hearts contents. That’s what this forum is about. Raising an eyebrow that we had to wait several months is in the eye of the beholder, some think we should have waited longer and get him for free. Imagine that. But that wasn’t my point, all the cavalier comments about bending over and overpaying significantly are just opinions based on fear that AR will not perform to his standards or retire after a year, and are just that…fears, not facts, that will evaporate if he takes us to the playoffs as this team expects. If he does is a steal. In fact I think he is more of a sure thing than any draft selection. JD protected our 2023 picks to the largest extent possible exactly for one reason, to reach our goal in 2023. That is the plan. And if we have to give a 1st rounder in 2024, is because in all likelihood we have finally gotten a real contender deep in the playoffs. Better that the last 20 plus years.
Another issue with this trade that nobody's brought up yet is that unless Rodgers gets hurt, we will be giving Green Bay our 2024 first. Because if this blows up, the coaching staff is not going to care about our 2024 draft, knowing they won't be around for it, so they will play Rodgers the entire year.
He's not a FQB. He was another teams FQB who Is 40 years old and won't be here more than two years. Good chance he's only here for one. A FQB Is a guy the Packers got with a 20 something pick In the first round for 15-16 years. He's not that for us. He's a temporary fix for a desperate team, GM, and owner.
This is why you don’t run a PR tour when you get permission to visit with a player for potential trade leverage went out the window the moment Woody Johnson found out he could have lunch with Rodgers
