Does Defense Still Wins Championships?

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  1. ColoradoContrails

    ColoradoContrails Well-Known Member

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    You can win a SB with an above average QB, great weapons, OL, an above average defense, and a great coach, but you're not likely to repeat or win more than one with that combination, or even get to the SB multiple times.

    But if you want to win - or contend for - multiple SBs, it seems what you need are: a great QB, a great HC, a great OL, at least two great weapons, and an above average defense.

    The Jets aren't realistically close.
     
  2. Br4d

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    You need a good offense to make the playoffs but defense wins Super Bowls.
     
  3. westiedog1

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    Agree. In today's NFL, offense is required to get into the playoffs. However, as you point out, defense can be the difference in one important game. I would add last year's SB as another example where Aaron Donald, a defensive player, dominated. So let's not short change our defense, which ranked #4 last year. We're going to need them.
     
  4. ColoradoContrails

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    I don't think anyone is shortchanging them, but if given a choice between investing more resources on the "D" or on the offense, where do you invest?
     
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    Yup, he's such a twat.
     
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    One poster questioned whether we should be investing money to keep our best D player Quinnen Williams.

    To answer your question: If I had a top QB, I would be investing more in defense. The reason being, a top QB makes a lot of the O players around him better, therefore the need to invest in high quality O players diminishes. Think of the great QBs like Brady and Manning. It didn't matter much who was lining up with them, they still put points on the scoreboard. The same may be said of Mahomes now. On the other hand, a good D requires more high performing individual players (and a good coach.) If I didn't have a top QB, I'd sell the farm to get one and continue investing in O until QB pays off or busts. If he pays off, back to investing in D, if he busts, sell another farm. However, this doesn't mean you can't pay your top D players.
     
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  7. Jets OG fan

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    The Chiefs played great defense in the second half, hard to deny that. They also had a fumble 6 early in the game, although that was really Hurts mistake. I'd say the defense was integral in this championship

    Also the Eagles defense committed a terrible penalty on that game winning drive. Even if the guy scores a TD there, the Eagles could have gotten the ball back, so their defense helped lose the championship.
     
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    Hurts lost the ball without any contact. He was pressured but he shouldn't have fun led them 6 points. That was brutal.
     
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    OLine wins championships
     
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    This season shows that you need the refs on your team's side. The refs were clearly against the Jets in 2022. Thus, the Jets don't have that factor going for them yet.
     
  12. Losmeister

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    beat me to it
     
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    Doesn't really matter how good your backs and receivers are, a bad o-line will drag the entire defense down.

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  14. chandler

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    yes it does but not on its own. You need to be good in all three phases, but defense is the bedrock IMO

    defense travels better than offense. So it will lead to road wins to get you better seed etc. Also in the SB itself even the high scoring ones usually turn on some sequence of defense that was pivotal -- rarely just the other team flubbing up all on its own.

    i think the issue is there are some teams so hell bent on defense -- think Rex but there are others -- that their offense is way out of whack and unless you're in the echelon of 85 Bears dominance this one-dimensionality won't work IMO
     
  15. Skicats

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    Scoring more points than your opponents, wins championships. Ultimately, it doesn't matter how you get there, just get there.
     
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    I think what we saw this year is, no matter how good your defense is, it still won’t win games for you unless you take the football away.
     
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