Year End Grade: Joe Douglas - GM

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Your Year End Grade for Joe Douglas

  1. A+ to A-

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  2. B+ to B-

    53.7%
  3. C+ to C-

    20.7%
  4. D or below

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  1. NJJets

    NJJets Well-Known Member

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    Tommorow is certainly unknown, but some things are predictable. A 6’7” man who weighs nearly 400lbs with questionable work ethics is probably gonna get hurt. Just like a lot of people predicted when Becton was drafted.
     
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  2. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    Yep - probably is a sure thing for some of them.
     
  3. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    A GMs job is to be able to project how a player will perform tomorrow. That’s what Joe Douglas is paid to do

    it wasn’t an act of God that caused Becton to get hurt, he wasn’t struck by lightning. He has been injured multiple times playing a sport where people of his size are often injured, especially in the lower legs
     
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  4. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    So are little tiny guys like Zach Wilson.
     
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  5. JohnnyP123456

    JohnnyP123456 Well-Known Member

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    I love the draft he recently had, but be realistic -- those 3 were all top 40 selections and 2 were top 10 picks. I would hope that most GMs would have made those picks
     
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  6. bicketybam

    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    Another contender for post of the year!
     
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  7. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    thats putting a chemical into your body, not a natural size of a healthy but large human. apples and oranges. not a good comparison.
    he's also 6-9. he's just a large human. he played around 360-380. there were claims he ballooned up to 400lbs during his rehab but nothing confirmed. the mountain is 6-9 and 403 lbs and a power lifter. some people are built different. just like some small WRs and RBs were once thought of injury risks but many have stayed healthy over the years while prototype sized ones haven't. hell wilson is skinny as hell for a WR and davis is prototype yet davis was hurt more. unless a player has injuries in college you can't assume they are injury prone
     
  8. GasedAndConfused

    GasedAndConfused Well-Known Member

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    it's lazy to call anyone an "easy" pick. many GMs psych themselves out fo what some would consider an obvious pick. some are right some are wrong.
     
  9. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Hes terrible and should have been FIRED ..the 2 most import decisions QB Head Coach and his OC have been spectacular busts. He got us. a couple of good players but FAILED to address the Offensive Line properly

    The Maras and the Tisch's would have graded him right out the door..but that cheap pussy WJ wants to prolong our agony

    My Predictions: Rogers and Hackett put it together but the Head Coaching will be awful and like the Browns we make an in Season change at Head Coach
     
  10. Tamba_Trio

    Tamba_Trio Active Member

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    We tend not to sack coaches in season, so I think we've got Salah for another year at least.

    Probably longer. We tend to be very slow in getting rid of coaches (unless they are OCs, in which case they make a nice fall guy for the defensive minded head coach).
     
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  11. Nyjets4eva

    Nyjets4eva Well-Known Member

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    was no fall guy he legit sucked
     
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  12. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to TGG Tampa..where old fans die forever waiting for whatever

    If we ever get lucky we get a Steve Cohen in here to buy out the slow thinkers Dumb and Dumber Johnsons
     
  13. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Yep..another spectacular failed JD decision

    Dont get me wrong ..we all got fixated on the monster size of Becton myself included

    BUT a true GM has to know more about drafting the right players then all of us brains put together

    Sad Sad Sad
     
  14. Tamba_Trio

    Tamba_Trio Active Member

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    We generally don’t sack coaches just because they suck. We had the worst defence in the league a year ago, and no one got sacked.

    We usually only sack coaches to buy time for the head coach. It’s the exact same thing that Rex and Bowles did. MLF wasn’t good, but he had Zach Wilson as his QB, no offensive line and his top running back was injured. No one is going to make a decent offence out of that.

    We had some genuinely good offensive games when Wilson wasn’t at QB. The only reason to fire MLF was to point the finger away from Douglas and Salah.
     
  15. JackBower

    JackBower Well-Known Member

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    I sort of agree with your point... But there were other situations where QBs were injured, or sucked, and the o line was shitty and those teams still scored points. MLF couldn't get a touchdown in over three games.

    The play calling was also just not acceptable. Jets led the league in empty backfield formations, and were one of the worst in the NFL in production from that formation. Again, totally unacceptable to continue to do something you are terrible at over and over again. Armchair coordinators knew it, our OC didn't. That's a problem.

    And the offense still had better overall talent then the previous years defense. That year was also the luxury of knowing we weren't going to win many games. Jets are in win now, so it's not the same.
     
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  16. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    Also all of the flat-footed misdirection plays where the RB got the ball standing still 3-4 yards deep in the backfield. I can't even imagine what the design was there but the execution was terrible and odds are pretty good the design was also.
     
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    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    The only reason to fire LaFleur was that his offense did not score enough points. Only one team in the league had fewer offensive touchdowns. That team fired their OC mid-season and their head coach at the end of the season. Why would anyone decide to keep LaFleur?
     
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  19. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    I think it's worth pointing out that the Eagles getting back to the Super Bowl with a totally different roster means that Roseman is the real brains in Philly, and Douglas probably had as much to do with their success as Idzik did in Seattle.
     
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  20. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Of course. But he was Douglas' mentor. The idea is that Douglas can replicate some of that success using similar principals, not that he was actually driving force behind their SB and not Roseman.
     
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