First I would not take draft advice from a media personality. 2nd I would not discount Simms soley off his take on Z. Wilson. Wilson being the 2nd QB in the draft was a no brainer unanimous pick. Every NFL team had this as a 2 QB draft class then a steep drop off with Wilson the number 2 pick. Albert Breer surveyed 23 FO's and everyone had Wilson number 2. There was no argument here. Simms rankings were right in line with every NFL team. I would take bigger issue with Simms ranking of Mond or Simms excluding G. Wilson from his top 5 WR list as both of those rankings seemed to designed to stir controversy and to increase views and page hits. In regards to Z. Wilson it is hard to argue even the scouting reports on him were wrong. His NFL issues are all mental and lack of confidence not physical ability. I am not sure how you scout the mental aspect without having access to team investigations. Keep in mind I don't think teams even got to meet with the prospects in 2021 except for pro-days. No combine. Making the mental evaluations even tougher.
you are just talking out your ass. You didn't see anyone's draft board, how would you even know. the 49ers traded 2 first round picks and a 3rd round pick to move up to number 3 when they knew there was "a steep drop off" after the number 2 pick. Of course not. You are an idiot
Does anyone care what Chris Simms says when Robert Saleh is in charge? I know i certainly don't. You shouldn't either. Zach will ONLY get back on the field when the following TWO things happens: 1) Zach must get his fundamentals down pat enough that the coaches are satisfied he knows what he's supposed to be doing. So long as he cannot get his footwork right and continues to miss wide open receivers he will NOT get back on that field. So number 1 is satisfy all of the coaches very long list of objectives for football 101. Without that? There's no way he starts again. They will not put him in before he demonstrates confidence to the coaches satisfaction. 2) Mike White MUST have a very bad game. I'm talking like another 4 interception game in order for Saleh to make the change. Without a really bad game where White shows he's incapable of leading the troops Saleh gets criticized very harshly. He'll open himself up to massive ridicule. You don't bench a player that's playing well and Saleh isn't dumb enough to do it. So realize Without BOTH 1 and 2 happening there's no way Zach gets back on the field this season. Period.
To be honest, in most situations, I think Simms would be correct. If the Jets weren't playing for anything they should let Wilson work through his issues while playing and take their lumps. However, its clear that the Jets defense is now elite and if they could just get decent offensive production, which should happen with competent QB play given all the weapons the offense now has, this team could be a legitimate superbowl contender this year. We've seen enough of Zack this year to know that he is currently very flawed and limited with various mechanical issues that need to be fixed. We need to understand if Mike White is at least a short-term solution that could get the Jets deep into the playoffs and potentially to the superbowl this year. If the coaching staff concludes that Mike White could do so, then they have to play him. This team is far ahead in the scheduled rebuild and, unfortunately for Zack, that changes how the team must operate. This should not be interpretted as the Jets should give up on Zack Wilson. Wilson could still be the long-term answer - he is just not the short term answer right now. Its not unusual for 2nd year QBs to struggle with various issues. The irony here is that the Jets drafted Wilson because he could be a gunslinger, but then they've banged into his head that he can't take any risks with the football and can't operate as a gunslinger. The offensive system the Jets run needs a QB to be a game manager, not a gunslinger the vast majority of the time.
agree 100%…he can’t see the field without BOTH of those things happening…not one…BOTH you can’t put him in and have him do the same shit he’s been doing, and you certainly can’t pull a hit QB who has the teams backing off the field just to have ZW shit the bed again…
Yes…the improvement in the overall team, but especially the defense turning into what is now ranked as a top five D, changed the entire purpose of the season. I do think in their mind it was a three year plan where NEXT season was going to to be the playoff push year, and this year was about developing the QB as the long term answer while the rest of the team showed improvement as well. but once the defense made this huge jump driven by Sauce, Reed, Q, and the rest of the DL, everything changed. Now it’s clear we have a playoff caliber team….we are clearly in the mix (our remaining schedule will be rough so it’s possible we don’t make it, but we are clearly in the mix),and so developing a QB who is so clearly struggling becomes second priority. Playoffs come first. Had he shown even a little progress maybe you ride it out, but he hasn’t shown it. I’m done with the excuses and the “eye test” BS…we have enough games now and to me, the eye test matches the stat sheet pretty damn well…I see a bottom of the league QB….yes he has natural talent and physical skills no doubt…he can make some incredible throws for sure….but he wouldn’t be the first strong armed QB to fail…I’m old enough to remember Jeff George who could throw a mile but was a piss poor QB…but regardless, he can’t see the field well, he can’t make quick decisions when his first read is covered, and he continues to be wildly inaccurate due to bad fundamental mechanics. personally, I’m not sure he can develop. Not impossible obviously, but to me his flaws are pretty fundamental. He doesn’t see the field and he’s inaccurate. Those are killer flaws if you want to be a great QB. I don’t know if those are fixable, I’m not a QB coach. But history has shown that QBs who start this poorly don’t often turn it around. Sure many QBs struggle early, but most of the ones who grew through it and developed showed signs along the way…he hasn’t really done that yet. The stats are the same today as they were last year. He still hasn’t had a complete statement game. Just hasn’t happened for him. so while possible that maybe next year after a real reset he comes back strong, I’d be surprised if he does. I’d be ecstatic, and I’d be happy about being wrong on him, but I’m not overly optimistic.
I think Zack's issues fall into a number of categories - (i) he has mechanical problems (feet aren't aligned correctly, etc.), (ii) he wants to escape the pocket when its not necessary and has a tendency to step backwards rather than to step into the pocket, (iii) he's not looking downfield when he should be and doesn't seem to see wide open receivers - I think what he's actually looking at is the protection rather than looking downfield and (iv) he seems to be throwing late on some of the timing routes and (v) he doesn't seem to hit his hot routes on blitzes, etc. I think (i) and (ii) are fixable. I think (iv) is that he is being ultra careful not to throw an interception and, hopefully, as he gets more expereince that will improve. On (iii), I just don't know - he needs to learn to trust his offensive line and just go through his progressions. On (v) does he not see the blitzes and realize he has to dump it to his hot routes? He seems to get nervous and flustered here and that results in some terrible QB play on blitzes, even though his hot routes are likely open. His numbers from a clean pocket are extraordinarily good - top 10, but his numbers when pressured are incredibly bad.
Well, when you look at the QB class, he might end up being right! But instead of saying which QB will be the best, he shoulda said which QB will suck the least
This. Jets got so much better real quick. Saleh could no longer prioritize the development of our future FQB over making the POs this season. Damn Joe Douglas. If he had just done his job like every other GM, Jets would be 4-7 right now with no issues letting Zack develop. But nooooo, Joe had to accel far beyond what was expected and messed everything up!
Honestly BN. Go rest a week. Tired of personal attacks and anybody who chose to resort personal attacks will be benched.
Hah, so true. I am glad I am not the only one that cringes everytime I see that top button buttoned. There is bad fashion and then there is Ohio State players (see outfits worn by Zeke, Darron Lee, G. Wilson, etc.) at draft night fashion. Simms top button belongs in the latter.
Simms would look way better if he had just been honest about how bad Zach has been. He doesn't have enough clout to take such a contrarian view that Zach wasn't playing that badly and have people trust his opinion over the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. It's also been pretty clear that Simms hasn't actually been watching Zach play this year. He's said some things about Zach's play that no one watching the games the right way could honestly say.
I've been a big defender of ZW, but Simms is wrong on this. This is a playoff team and they don't want to risk blowing their playoff chances on ZW's football immaturity. At the beginning of the season, this was a "2nd year of a rebuild and let ZW develop" team. Now, it's a "win-now" team and ZW is not ready for the new team.
MW looks like he's improved since last season. We'll see if he can maintain his level of play and possibly further improve his game.
