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  1. WoodyHarrelson

    WoodyHarrelson Well-Known Member

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    MLF needs to get down on the field again. Idk. It’s bad though.
     
  2. Jetfanmack

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    I tend to defend LaFleur, but if you're going to criticize him, your criticisms are the fairest ones.

    I think the 3 things to criticize are...
    - Doesn't run enough on 3rd and short
    - Hasn't developed Wilson that well
    - Hasn't utilized Moore properly

    We don't know how much of Zach's lack of development is on Zach and how much is on MLF. I think it's more on the player not being as good as we hoped, but if you want MLF to take a share of the blame, that's fair.
     
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    I don't have a problem with the scheme, per se. It's evolved from last year. My concern with MLF is the actual in game play calling. Example: how many times are we going to go empty backfield on third and short? We've been a strong running team, so let's tell the other teams defense that we're NOT going to run in that situation because the backfield is empty. Might as well give them the playbook because they know what's coming anyway.
     
  4. JackBower

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    WFAN has it right today. MLF abandoned the run immediately. Patriots ran it almost 50 times, Jets ran 12. It has nothing to do with the 4th quarter score.

    That's one hundred percent on MLF
     
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    That was one of the dumbest "I'm smarter than everyone else" calls I've seen. Especially since at that point Zach was already struggling. Asking him to make a great throw in that situation was beyond stupid, and worse, completely unnecessary.

    Zach, for whatever reason, had lost his rhythm, but they were driving downfield and moving the chains. At that point, running the ball, or at least calling for an RPO or a designed QB roll out and run would've likely kept the drive going. Instead they ask Zach to hit a fairly long pass into tight coverage.

    Dumb.
     
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    The shovel pass gained 54 yards. Mims gained 40+ yards after the catch on his long play.

    It was the hollowest 300+ yard game I can recall.

    Usually when a QB completes less than 50% of his passes for 300+ yards it is bombs away. Today it was YAC.
     
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    The Jets should have run the ball at least 50/50. To be so far off of that tells me that MLF was just checked out today. He got what he deserved with his QB looking like shit and a loss in a totally winnable game.
     
  9. WoodyHarrelson

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    Mike Carter ain’t running for sh** and you know it
     
  10. JackBower

    JackBower Well-Known Member

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    I do? And what about the new guy?
     
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    Literally tons of film out there showing Zach making poor decisions and not even seeing basic concepts with WR’s getting open, yet we want to blast MLF? If we had competency, just simple competency from the QB, we’d be talking about MLF being one of the best OC’s in the league. What MLF calls is irrelevant if the QB has no idea how to read a defense and decides to go “off platform” every play.
     
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    MLF is responsible for making calls that the team can execute well.

    Nothing that he calls for ZW in the passing game is likely to get executed well.

    Hence the wise move is to reduce his role, which the Jets were doing quite well until the Breece Hall injury. Even with Breece out the wise move was to maintain ZW's reduced role in the offense. The 3 picks are a clear indication that this was the case.
     
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  13. VegasMav

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    They didn't just abandon the run, BB had a game plan since we have no Hall in the backfield. His plan worked to perfection. By stopping the run, he forced ZW to throw the ball. MLF doesn't know how to get creative if that's the case.
     
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    We ran it 12 times all game. I think we ran it 3 times in the first quarter. This wasn't because of Bill.
     
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    They didn't stop the run. MLF abandoned the run without even giving it a honest effort. The whole point of establishing the run is overpowering the defense on the ground. They ran the ball 15 times! I guess MLF has no faith in the other backs on the roster???
     
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  16. WoodyHarrelson

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    Give him some time but we need some inside rushes and hard runs that Robinson will give. Carter is pure 3rd down
     
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    Bam Knight can do that too but he was deactivated for a guy with a questionable knee and new to the system.
     
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    Robinson will be putting a trade request in next, sign a man pissed off with lack of use and then don't use him very much.
     
  19. Acad23

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    LaFleur can be infuriating...

    Zach's first interception came on a 3rd & 2 w/ Zach in shotgun... no run threat at all... and no option for Zach to check to a run
    as there was nobody else in the backfield.

    Zach made the right call to throw to Ty but he had a linebacker in his face and floated the pass.

    Just dumb to show pure pass in that situation.
     
  20. dawinner127

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    Think we still had 3 TOs too so a run call would have been more than fine.
     
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