2022 - Week 8: New York Jets vs New England Patriots

Discussion in 'New York Jets' started by Brook!, Oct 23, 2022.

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Who will win?

Poll closed Oct 30, 2022.
  1. Jets

    62.7%
  2. Patriots

    37.3%
  1. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    Jets coaching staff take note: Herbert and Montgomery ran the ball down the mouth of the Pats D tonight. We need to do the same. That being said, Fields managed the game VERY well tonight and made big plays all night when they needed him to whether with his arm or legs. Can Zach do the same?
     
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  2. Trainer

    Trainer Well-Known Member

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    Dear MLF: Copy the Bears game plan and don't outsmart yourself.
     
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  3. PabloJa

    PabloJa Well-Known Member

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    My thoughts exactly, don’t try to get too cute.
     
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  4. JETFUEL1580

    JETFUEL1580 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you didn't notice how Fields kept the defense honest with his incredible scrambling ability. That was the key and changed the dynamic of the Bears offense. Zach can't nor should he run like Fields did tonight.
     
  5. JETFUEL1580

    JETFUEL1580 Well-Known Member

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    Zach can't nor should he attempt to play like Fields when scrambling. Fields is bigger and tougher. Zach will break the first time he takes a huge shot.
     
  6. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    If we had Breece and AVT, I think we could beat the Pats by doing the exact same thing we've been doing. But without them, Zach is going to have to make some plays. I think we're still the better team overall, but if we fall behind early, there's a chance it gets ugly.
     
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  7. JETFUEL1580

    JETFUEL1580 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed completely. Even tonight Fields made some big throws that Zach has trouble with especially under pressure.
     
  8. HomeoftheJets

    HomeoftheJets Well-Known Member

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    Zach like "Them's fightin words"

     
  9. JetsNation06

    JetsNation06 Well-Known Member

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    Missing my larger point which is we will see if Zach can play mistake free football, make smart decisions and convert big plays for this team when needed.
     
  10. Patriot

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    After watching this game tonight, Mac Jones is not any better than Zappe. Zappe at 6' 1" is a bit short and has a short arm, which explains the number of battered balls.

    The Patriot's defensive line has been an issue all year and the Bears have demonstrated the blueprint to beat the Pats. The Jets even without Hall should be able to run the ball effectively. Avoid 3rd and long situations so Judon doesn't kill your QB. The key is patience and not worrying about Field Goals because Pat's offense is not that explosive.

    If the jets can manage to not allow the Pats running game to be effective, the Pat's offensive line is not good at pass blocking. They have had issues at both left and right tackles this year. The fact that Cannon at right tackle (backup at best) was better than Trent brown is concerning. I would not want to be Pat's QB facing this Jets defense.

    I can say strongly now that the Jets should easily win this game. The greatest coach can't help if the defense can't stop the run. The Jets will win the battle of the trenches and they will not need a great QB to win this game. Hopefully, Wilson is not allowed to throw the game away and the Jets may even blow out my Pats.
     
  11. Patriot

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    If your prediction comes true, and there are two QBs from Western KY, it shows that drafting a QB in the 1st round is simply a crap shoot.

    Either way, I see the Jets winning.
     
  12. Johnny "Lam" Jones

    Johnny "Lam" Jones Active Member

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    we have already seen what mistake free qb play does for the Jets in the last 3 games.

    i see another low scoring game were Jets play to win

    turnover free games lead to wins in the NFL.

    Lam
     
  13. Losmeister

    Losmeister Well-Known Member

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    I agree he shouldn't run as much as fields. He and hurts are two guys bilt like solid large rbs.

    but...as we have seen , nothing plays can lead to injury too...Vinny t, breece and Zach this ps. Just play the game use legs as necessary.
     
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  14. Johnny "Lam" Jones

    Johnny "Lam" Jones Active Member

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    ugly against the combo of zappe/jones? have you seen the jets D. the pats running game is pitiful.

    just some more game management by zach, no turnovers, and turn the pats over a few times is the recipe for winning agains the pats.

    needless to say i thing the jets will win.

    Lam
     
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  15. Johnny "Lam" Jones

    Johnny "Lam" Jones Active Member

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    fields was sacked 4 times. threw a pick, a touch, and 179 yards. biggest thing was the bears running game, who sliced and diced the pats run d for the tune of 243 yards.

    Lam
     
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  16. All Gas No Shake

    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    He also avoided a number of other sacks and turned those plays into big gains … the pick was off a DL deflection, which rarely happens

    and fields was their leading rusher
     
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  17. JetsNation06

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    A large part of that mistake free football was having a bell cow back like Breece Hall to rely on. Zach doesn't have that luxury starting this week. Defenses don't have to game plan for Hall now. That's why there will be more pressure on Zach to make sure he doesn't start making those mistakes. We will see how well he manages this.
     
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    dawinner127 Well-Known Member

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    bicketybam Well-Known Member

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    He will play both so it really doesn't matter.
     
  20. Munter

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    I’m coming over for this one from the UK for my first game at MetLife. We have a winning record (unexpected), we have lots of exciting young players, solid coaching and strong momentum. The Pats are struggling for sure, but cannot be underestimated.

    It has the makings of a great contest, but most of all we will get some answers to important questions…

    - can Zack step it up and bring more balance to the offence?
    - will our beat up OL manage to protect him?
    - can Robinson replace Hall effectively?
    - will we keep up our strong 4th quarter finishes?
    - can our defensive win games on their own (they might need to here)
    - are we playoff contenders?

    Win and we look forward to the Bills with new found confidence. Lose and the doubts start to creep back in. Clearly the biggest game of the season so far.
     

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