Have you lost faith that Zach Wilson could be a franchise QB?

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Have you lost faith that Zach Wilson could be a franchise QB?

  1. Yes

    25 vote(s)
    29.8%
  2. No

    22 vote(s)
    26.2%
  3. Too Early To Tell

    37 vote(s)
    44.0%
  1. NJJets

    NJJets Well-Known Member

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    by “quite a bit of progress” he went from absolutely laughably awful to just really awful.
     
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  2. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Well he's gonna have a whole lot of mental reps saved up. That whole "emotional hurdle of playing" might have to wait until mid-season, though.
     
  3. TwoHeadedMonster

    TwoHeadedMonster Well-Known Member

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    Jets fans have such cognitive dissonance:

    Franchise sucks for 5 decades-- still sticking with them.
    QB or Coach sucks for 5 seconds-- Fire the bastards!
     
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  4. KingRoach

    KingRoach Well-Known Member

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    If it’s “too early to tell” then the action of losing faith hasn’t happened Ie NO. IMO, by you adding the 3rd option you’re skewing the vote. .
     
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  5. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    How about Wilson gives us something to work with?
     
  6. Ralebird

    Ralebird Well-Known Member

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    The missing option is: "I never had faith he would be a franchise quarterback."
     
  7. Borat

    Borat Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. I think pretty much everyone who has some faith in Zach thinks it is too early to tell whether he will actually be FQB or not.
     
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  8. Linebacker712

    Linebacker712 Well-Known Member

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    It's too early to tell, but the things that concern me is that he didn't appear to make major strides and improvements in training camp, and he's going to go into the season missing four games and most of training camp due to his injury. That's likely to be a significant setback in his development, but it's questionable how good he would be judging by his pre-injury performance.
     
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  10. Will-I-Am-Not

    Will-I-Am-Not Well-Known Member

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    I'm voting it's too soon to tell, but things are trending poorly. The extremely poor play at times last year was concerning, now there's the fragility element as well. Whether he comes back in Week 4 or later, he needs to make staying healthy and on the field goal number one. If that means using his running ability to only extend plays in the pocket, then throwing it away if there's nothing there, and not trying to run for yardage, I'm ok with that. He needs to show what he can do passing the football and putting up points to make me a believer. He should leave running for yards to the more durable QBs, at least until he's established himself.
     
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  11. cval

    cval Well-Known Member

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    That is a very vocal crowd on this forum. How about we just wait and see.
     
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  12. NYJ1970

    NYJ1970 Well-Known Member

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    I still think it's too early to tell but i think he MUST make a major leap this season if he's going to become that FQB and the injury really puts him behind the 8 ball...
     
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    NYJ1970 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not so sure about Zach as much as I'm losing respect for ROBERT SALEH.....
     
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  14. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    LOL. Simple, Jet's cognitive dissonance is perpetrated by continuing the same vicious cycle. If you demand to fire the QB, the CS, the GM, at the earliest setback, without ever giving anyone adequate time to fix the problem, damned the circumstances. Keep doing it over and over you can almost guarantee 5 more decades of the same shit, without even ever understanding the real root cause of the problem. Like it or not, ther long term plan for JD and this team was six years with the first one an absolute waste by keeping Gase. While we should expect significant improvement this year, we tend to forget yesterday was year one for the rebuilt with a new rookie CS and rookie QB.
     
  15. Jets81

    Jets81 Well-Known Member

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    Regarding the original question, I can not lose that which I never possessed.

    To be fair, I don't expect to see another Jets FQB any time soon, so its nothing specific too Wilson.
     
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  16. REVISion

    REVISion Well-Known Member

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    Are there any QBs, GMs, or coaches that we fired in the last 10-15 years that went on to have success elsewhere? I can't think of any.

    Our problem is just that we pick bad coaches, GMs, and QBs, not that we get rid of them too quickly. Our recent past shows we actually hold onto those guys for a year too long in most cases. Gase's lame duck season, letting Mac ruin one final draft before firing him, bringing back Darnold for a 3rd year after 2 horrendous years, etc.

    We had a relatively perfect coaching hire in Pederson staring us in the face and we hired a mediocre defensive coordinator instead. Pederson has a SB ring, he's offense-focused, and was a QB so he would've been good for developing Wilson.
     
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    cval Well-Known Member

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    Na, We would have run him out of town as well. Rex was a good coach as was Bowles.
     
  18. LAJet

    LAJet Well-Known Member

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    You make some great points about our past, of which BTW the only common denominator thru out all of it is the ownership. This fan base has been very critical of the scouting department for ever, particularly when it comes to selecting a QBs. I do believe we are getting better with JD but the wild card will be the development of Wilson. Injuries have been a bitch to deal with. I do still think we should give both Saleh and Wilson a chance over the next two years. Im less concerned about Saleh than his DC. I also think our OC is the real deal and he should be able to develop our QB. With Wilson, if he shows no significant improvement this year I would be very disappointed but we will need to bring in competition in 23 , or if we have no capability to pick one with the draft bite the bullet and do what Denver did. . I think we have enough young talent to build a winner with.
    I also think JD is the real deal as a GM, and if we let him go,I feel he will be picked up in no time. He is that well respected across the league.
     
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  19. Losmeister

    Losmeister Well-Known Member

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    Has naught to do w/ faith in Zach... its either you are a sports fan with a clue, or your are a....
     
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  20. Losmeister

    Losmeister Well-Known Member

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    give him 3 years, just like we did Sam
     
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