Starting Defense

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  1. Ptflea2

    Ptflea2 Well-Known Member

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    I think Mac let him walk in 2016. It was sad watching him play for New England.
     
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  2. westiedog1

    westiedog1 Well-Known Member

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    Well put. Here are the Eagles, an average team last year, yet their receivers are wide open and their QB, who the FO can't decide to keep or not, was 6/6 and a TD. On the other hand, our receivers were pretty well covered until the 3rd stringers took over. We all know Wilson is a question mark, but so is this coaching staff at this point.
     
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  3. mrjet80

    mrjet80 Well-Known Member

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    The LBs need to be revamped the entire position really.
     
  4. LAJet

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    No question on the LB upgrade. I don't know if there is a direct correlation there but the middle of the field, a big issue last year still looks just as soft and painfully wide open all the time to me. I saw a bunch of catches right spot in the middle of the field without coverage within a 4 yard radius. I wonder if a trade is still in the cards
     
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  5. BrowningNagle

    BrowningNagle Well-Known Member

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    Nakobe Dean looked freakin awesome the other night too

    But Douglas wanted another running back
     
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  6. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    I wanted Dean so damn badly.
     
  7. Nyjets4eva

    Nyjets4eva Well-Known Member

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    I wanted Dean as well, but we can’t say Hall hasn’t looked good. And we won’t know what was a better pick for awhile
     
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    And it wasn't Hall, it was the JJ trade up that cost us Dean, which really goes back to drafting Garret Wilson at 10.

    Dean went pick 83 but getting JJ cost us picks 35 and 69. We could have gotten JJ at 10, a WR at 35, Hall at 36, and Dean at 69. Wilson was more expensive than just the 10th pick because we badly needed an edge and it forced another trade up.
     
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  9. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Look ...from what I recall the entire NFL commentary community thought the Jets graded an "A" on this draft and say a Bplus for free agents ..right?

    I still think we look great on paper ....there are also NO excuses for R Saleh and company to game plan a few wins here

    Maybe our 3rd string QB gets us a win here and there ...Flacco White Zach Wilson can't be relied on till I see differently

    I thought / demanded 8 wins this regular season but now I have no clue if we score a few tDs and not just field goals..ugh
     
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  10. KingRoach

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    I’m agree with not judging the D bc (more than) half the starters were held out…. but why doesn’t that apply the the LB core?

    Two thirds of that group was held out last night.
     
  11. KingRoach

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    I would also be upset if I made indirect or imaginary demands to a billion dollar company that didn’t know I existed.

    Thoughts and Prayers
     
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  12. Borat

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    He did play - 11 snaps I think? No targets against. Reminds you of someone?
     
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  13. mrjet80

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    It does apply to them too but I also think they’re below average to begin with. Moseley is good but past peak, I don’t think Williams is starting material - he’s more of a depth piece - and I wasn’t a fan of this idea of converting college safeties to LBs. I don’t see Sherwood of Naserdeen? sticking around too long - at least not as starters.

    Perhaps JD drafted those guys to experiment with while he addressed other areas of the team with higher draft picks. On paper the Jets have improved the secondary tremendously and the DL but still need impact players both inside and outside at LB - especially after Moseley is presumably released this coming offseason. So I’m assuming JD addresses the LB core this offseason in an attempt to finish the defensive rebuild for the most part.
     
  14. KingRoach

    KingRoach Well-Known Member

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    If we sign a FA who’s been successful in this system, in his prime, for a decent 1 yr contract - would that change your mind about the group this season?
     
  15. mrjet80

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    If you’re referring to Alexander yes a good signing considering a one year deal but he’s had some major injuries. I’d like to see him in action first - hopefully he has something left in the tank.
     
  16. KingRoach

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    I’m going to come full circle and come back to the original question:
    I agree with not judging the D bc (more than) half the starters were held out…. but why doesn’t that apply the the LB core?
     
  17. Nyjets4eva

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    true we prob don’t get one without the other. Meaning every pick changes the next one and how teams have their board lined up. But we all wanted a pass rusher so we moved up to get one. I can’t be mad at this draft is pretty much what I’m saying. You can nitpick any pick especially after the fact. We have holes literally everywhere, I still think Jds vision of how to build a team has been the best we have had for a long time. Let’s see how we approach next draft and FA. Can’t do everything in two off seasons
     
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  18. KingRoach

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  19. mrjet80

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    When did I say it didn’t? I realize Moseley and Alexander didn’t play. As I said I hope Alexander still has something in the tank. But on paper the LB unit is the thinnest. I saw way too many TEs running free in the middle of the field last year…. foo many open spaces. The Jets need a lot of help at that position even with those two in there. Moseley is past his peak and we’re not sure what Alexander brings to the table at this point. Do you consider Quincy starting material? I don’t ….
     
  20. KingRoach

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    I’m going by when you said “the entire LB unit leaves a lot to be desired”

    CJ is past his peak but still considered the top half of the league. Same is said of Qwon. Neither are coming off years with big injuries. I think Williams is rough and the 2 converted S need some time to develop a little more but since the majority of time, we’ll only have 2 lbs on the field, no I don’t think the group is subpar.
     

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