Parcells was the best GM in Jets history. He went from "worst team in the NFL" to Super Bowl contender in two offseasons. Complete roster turnover, including QB.
Good post. For 15+ years the NFL has been a league where the best teams are the ones who stack their offenses with talent through the draft and consistently add talent at high impact positions across the board (WR, CB, Edge, TE). The Jets, on the other hand, in their infinite wisdom, have spent most of the last 15 years drafting interior DL after interior DL and completely ignoring CB, WR, Edge, and TE. We've been trying to build the type of team that was successful in the 90's before the greatest show on turf Rams sparked the passing bonanza that is the modern NFL. When was the last time our team had this much young talent on offense? I don't think it's ever been remotely on this level. We finally seem to have gotten the memo most other teams got 10-15 years ago that the game is now won on offense and on the outside with edge rushers, wide receivers, tight ends, and secondary players. Will it work out? I don't know, and honestly it all comes down to Wilson. But we finally have the right idea of how to build a team for the first time in over a decade.
Joe D. From Florham Park talking for 17 minutes to Rich Eisen yesterday. Once your done with and if you want more then that you can watch Connor Hughes podcast from this morning. Hughes talks about why JJ dropped (in both his Saturday and this podcast) saying he was told that JJ played poor competition and (in the Saturday podcast) that while he had sacks teams value pressures and hurries more as they are more repeatable.
I thought the fact about teams valuing pressures over sacks was silly. I think it really was the way draft board was playing out. The teams in the middle really went after WRs and CBs. Don't think any edge guys went above JJ that were not supposed to.
He was arguably the worst GM, his pride and shenanigans cost us Peyton Manning who could have and should have been there for the taking. So whoopy do, he had a couple of good seasons & cost us TWENTY years of great quarterbacking.
Bill Parcells was one of the best coaches in Jets history but he was easily one of the worst GMs we ever had and put us in cap hell for the better part of a decade, betting on himself and failing. And in the end he's less successful than Rex Ryan was, so even his coaching is tarnished.
WTF are you talking about? We were in the playoffs six out of the next ten years after Parcells left ... and that doesn't even count the one season with Favre where we were Super Bowl favorites until he tore his bicep. First, Rex Ryan was good. So being "less successful" than him isn't really a put down. You know who is really less successful than Rex? Everyone we've had since. Shhhh ... don't tell anybody. Second, Parcells wasn't less successful than Rex. He took over the worst team in the history of the franchise and went 29 and 19; and that included a season where his QB got knocked out for the season in the first quarter of the first game (and he had to use his punter at QB and then finished the season with the gunner on the kickoff team playing QB). On the other hand, Rex went 46 and 50 (granted, it was with the worst starting QB in the league the entire time).
Still gotta go with Adam Gase. He hired Joe Douglas (who promptly fired him and hired Robert Saleh!!!). Can't make this shit up! Gase lit the wick and we are all now cheering the fireworks! Go Gase!!!! hahahahahahahahaha
Parcells took over a 1-15 team and went 29-19. Rex took over a 9-7 team and went 46-50. Parcells left us in cap hell? After Parcell's moved to GM we went to the playoffs 4 of the next 6 seasons. Since Rex was fired we haven't been to playoffs in 11 years. Regarding the idea that Parcells cost us Manning, it was a very complicated situation. First, Archie Manning told BP that Peyton wanted to stay in school another year. Manning refused to declare during 97 and was a mystery, and whaffled back and forth. Then Manning was named as one of the players in a sexual harassment suit at UT, which at the time was problematic (and settled out of court for an undisclosed sum). Then Manning decided to stay at Tennessee. Manning did say BP wasn't warm to him or showing interest like he hoped, which was a polite way of saying I don't want to go to a 1-15 team with the most expensive starter in the NFL already in place (Neil O'Donnell). We have to remember we were 1-15 and to get BP we had to give away a 2nd to NE. This was also before rookie contracts and the #1 pick, especially a QB, was going to get a fortune before even playing a snap. We were already paying O'Donnell a fortune. We had a mess and Manning couldn't be part of the solution, and in truth, didn't want to be. He returned to UT for another year. The next draft, after going 9-7, we had the 18th pick, which we forfeited along with our 3rd rounder, also to NE, because we swipped restricted FA Curtis Martin from them. In his first two seasons we had to give NE a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. And Manning went 1st overall in 98. Even after all this he still fielded a 12-4 team, the best in the modern era, and along the way found us two QBs that made an impact, Testeverde and Pennington - both at value prices. Screw Manning, he was another in a long line of players that used the Jets to get what he wanted. Even after he retired he screwed the Jets with bad advice about hiring Gase, while pretending he might join our FO.
Here is a link: It's Been 20 Years Since Peyton Manning, The Jets, And The Draft That Might Have Been (deadspin.com) You can come to various conclusions after reading the article, but my conclusion is that if Parcells had shown Peyton the love early and often that he would have come out and became a Jet. Parcells had a gargantuan ego. I believe that he did not really want Peyton because that would have slowed down the re-build by having to wait a season or two until a young QB came up to speed. In other words, his own coaching record was more important than what would have been best for the long term health of the franchise. We have to remember, at the time, Peyton was viewed by most as a generational prospect by almost everybody.............and he ended up fulfilling that potential. However, in the world of Parcells, near term success and preservation of his ego and his record trumped what was clearly the right thing to do for the long term success of the franchise. You really believe that Archie would not have wanted his kid coached by Parcells if he was assured that was going to happen ?????
It sounds like Parcells said Payton would be "very, very strongly in the mix", but didn't give a guarantee to Archie that he would draft him. “If Bill had come out and said, ‘Peyton, you’re my guy, I’m going to pick you,’ it may have made it a little bit harder,” Archie said. “But I swear he wanted to be a senior.” This just doesn't sound like it was Parcells' fault. In retrospect, sure, you beg him to come out, even though it was against the rules to talk to him. But at the time, feels like we just got unlucky Peyton didn't declare.
Parcells wasn't going to baby Manning. That is for sure. Look at the situation he stepped into. We signed O'Donnell at around 5 million a year for 5 years, and a 7 million dollar bonus, which at the time was a fortune in the NFL. The entire cap during that era was 24 million. Sadly, we went all in on O'Donnell. As the number 1 pick Manning signed for over 7.5 million a year, with an 11 million dollar bonus. It was a rebuilding year and we would have paid over half our cap for 2 QBs in 97, if Manning would have declared, which he didn't. Plus we were already paying a first overall WR, Keyshawn, nearly 3 million a year. That woulda left only 9 million to pay the other 51 players. There would have been little left to rebuild a 1-15 team with if we took Manning. It had nothing to do with ego. It was business. People forget what a train wreck we were when BP got here.
Agreed. Parcells of all people shouldn't be getting shit from Jets fans. 12-4 year was the second best year in franchise history. He was only there for 3 seasons and never had a losing record, after inheriting 1:15 team. And his 3d year was after Vinny was injured for the season. He was not with the team enough to make a bigger difference, but the time he was with the Jets was special.
