Saints/Eagles draft trade & Jets impact

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  1. Poeman

    Poeman Well-Known Member

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    I feel like the Saints made this move for a OT, would we consider trading #10 for #16 and #19 if Saints gave us a call?
     
  2. James Hasty

    James Hasty Well-Known Member

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    Draft value chart says we would need to cough up # 4 to get that kind of haul.
     
  3. WilsonJetsFan

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    This screams out that the Saints want to draft their QB of the future at 4. Jets are an obvious trade partner. Sets us up nicely for a haul that solves all our big issues and some nice bonuses:
    * 10: JJ if still there, else Karloftis
    * 16 Jameson Williams still there, else Olave
    * 19: Linderbaum if still there, else Daxton Hill
    * 35: Devante Wyatt
    * 38: Best receiver still available (Datson, Pierce, Watson) or Trey McBride
    * 69: Allgeier

    This would be a great haul, and getting Linderbaum or Hill at 19 really makes it shine.
     
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  4. joelip

    joelip Well-Known Member

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    The Saints message boards are lighting up with speculation that they will be selecting from among a quarterback, a tackle, or a wr. Considering that they have Thomas and Smith at wr, my guess is that it will be the first two. However, they certainly could be in the market for a wr; actually, so can the Eagles with one of their two firsts.
     
  5. Rockinz

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    Eagles just pulled off a heist
     
  6. Cromartie's_kid

    Cromartie's_kid Well-Known Member

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    Smith has been straight trash and Thomas is older, expensive and injury prone.


     
  7. JetsKickAss

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    No, I think it screams out that they are looking for cheap players in the draft and helps their lousy cap situation.

    How does trading up a few spots in the teens "scream" out that they want to move to #4 ??
     
  8. WilsonJetsFan

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    (a) The value of their picks match up perfectly to the value of a #4 pick on the draft value chart; (b) the Saints' QB situation remains a huge mess without direction; and (c) there's a lot of smoke about JD having an interest in trading down.
     
  9. Rockinz

    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think so.. look what SF paid for #3 last year. They would need 16/19/1st 2023 but they traded it away.
     
  10. NOVAJET

    NOVAJET "2020 TGG Fantasy Football Champ"

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    Correct, trade value chart goes out the window when targeting QB but throw Michael Thomas in there... :D
     
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  11. WilsonJetsFan

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    The Saints gave up huge value in this trade with the Eagles. Getting value-shellacked like this makes no sense just to get 16 and 19. It has to be an intermediate move toward something bigger, like trading up to 4. If so, they may well give extra value in that trade too.
     
  12. JetsKickAss

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    If you wanted #4, you ask the owner of #4. You don't make a "dumb" deal to basically stay in the teens.
     
  13. Get me the Damn Ball

    Get me the Damn Ball Well-Known Member

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    10 and 38 for 16 and 19
     
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  14. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    The problem with trading down for multiple 1st round picks is that you wind up with a negotiating nightmare in the 4th year if you are successful with all the picks.

    The reason is that a 1st round pick that plays well on his first contract is guaranteed to want to be paid in the top 5 at his position on the second deal.

    The guys who prove out in the 2nd and 3rd rounds may or may not try to to break the bank on that second deal but the guys taken in the 1st round are guaranteed to hold you over a barrel. So having like 3 of them in a single year is a nightmare in the making.

    What I'm saying with all this is that a guy you take in the 1st round who is a very good player but not at superstar level, well it just doesn't matter. If you want to keep him you are going to pay him like he's that superstar.

    Guys taken in later rounds who are very good players but not superstars are less likely to demand to get paid at the pinnacle of their position.
     
  15. GreenGreek

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    In addition to 16 and 19 for 4, 16 and 49 for #10 would be fine with me as well.
     
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  16. JetFanInPA

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    The Saints make some strange moves
     
  17. GreenGreek

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    Ok they twisted my arm. Becton for #19.
     
  18. GasedAndConfused

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    unless they did and JD said he wanted 2 1sts this year
     
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  19. JetsKickAss

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    Are those equal on the draft value chart ?
     
  20. deviljets7

    deviljets7 Well-Known Member

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    When it comes to the top part of the first round, the trade value chart is completely meaningless, especially when its not perceived to be a strong QB draft. If you are going to value pick #4 as if Trey Lance is there, then there is zero chance of a trade happening.
     

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