Again, what other conclusion about the Ukranian people can we make on the basis of your posts but that they must be incredibly stupid for electing a "puppet regime" by over 70%, in an election judged as fair by impartial observers. Ukraine: Freedom in the World 2020 Country Report | Freedom House Not to mention how you must think the Ukranian people are unbelievably stupid for deciding to die by the thousands and have their country bombed to a wasteland for what they believe is their right to an independent country free from Russian domination. How silly! Don't they realize that they are just pawns in an American "proxy war"? Doesn't Ukraine realize that it is a "sacrificial lamb"? And yet the Ukrainian people are perverse and self-destructive enough to continually appeal for more help from whatever source they can get to keep the war going in the vain belief that they are not a "sacrifical lamb" but that they are defending themselves from the Russian invasion! Actually, Acad, such posts don't make the Ukranian people look incontestably stupid and naive, they make you look incontestably stupid and naive. And yet you keep posting them, with no evidence that your twisted views are convincing anyone.
This is where I'm at also. Basically all of the "we did this" material is from an interim government that was in power less then six months.. And some of those people were never in power at all, just at a rally McCain was at. This is also ignoring the fact Putin years prior refused to acknowledge Ukraine as a country and invaded it. Really cherry picking events and trying to make them this enormous occasion and implying they had these huge ramifications just because... While ignoring the fact of why these neo politicians were popular during an overthrow of the government in the first place, and for the hundredth time were apart of an interim government and has nothing to do with who's been in power.
The West wasn't looking to regime change the Russians until the Russians went in all guns blazing to regime change Ukraine. Putin did this to himself.
It doesn’t work that way with the Twitter boyz. The USA is responsible for everything we do but Russia isn’t
The US wasn't responsible for the Orange Revolution. Putin's puppet was. I suppose next you'll tell us that it was the Brits that caused the French Revolution? I mean Britain and France were sworn enemies competing all over the world for influence. It must have been them trying regime change? Right?
I wonder if there would have been an Orange Revolution If the people of Ukraine were happy with the pro Russian regime. I guess all those people out protesting were just influenced by the west against their will
The run-up has been going on for years. At least Tony Blinken has a good sense of humor... "As you know, and as you’ve heard us say repeatedly, we do not have a strategy of regime change in Russia or anywhere else, for that matter." I'd like to see Putin get put out of power... but who's next?
I already pointed out that the conflict historically between Ukraine and Russia is way deeper than just joining EU/NATO. Ukrainians have been forced to deny their culture and language for centuries. They were killed, perscuted and considered as the lowest class of citizens by Russian/Soviet for decades. The reason they want to join EU or NATO is NOT because they are getting false promise from western countries. It's because they hate and despise the Russian with passion. They would rather die then be persecuted again. They simply put, want their independance of making free choice and not be forced things they don't want. As proof, they are willing to refuse to join any alliance and remain neutral as per the current negotiation peace talk.
Read full article here: https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-...ry-out-orders-uk-spy-chief-to-reveal-12578490
When did I mention the Orange Revolution? The 2014 coup attempt........You must be completely unaware and misinformed. Not surprising
